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  • TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca
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    I remember reading a few articles detailing how a military incursion into Canada would likely go.

    tl;dr is that Canada’s military would likely surrender immediately and then go underground to assist in resistance efforts. The Canada/US border is one of the longest unprotected land borders in the world and many cities along the border are right beside each other. The US would take immediate soft control but would be fighting fierce resistance coast-to-coast for decades that would frequently spill across the border and result in attacks on their own cities and facilities. Not to mention an assault on Canada is very unpopular with US citizens and troops and all of the states that border Canada will refuse to turn into battlegrounds. A lot of US citizens have family and friends in Canada and the militaries of the 2 countries have close bonds from working together for generations. If any countries came to Canada’s aid with their own military force then it would get even uglier.

    The immense economic strain of holding Canada against the resistance coupled with the internal unrest and inevitable worldwide sanctions placed on the US would cause complete economic collapse and eventual civil conflict. The USA, as the singular entity we know of today, would be destroyed.

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      And that isn’t even taking into account the technology of increasingly affordable drones, which would routinely cross the immensely wide borders, or downright be launched from within the border and destroy American infrastructure deep in their territory. Just like Ukraine is doing to Russia.

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      an assault on Canada is very unpopular with US citizens and troops and all of the states that border Canada will refuse to turn into battlegrounds

      That puts a lot of faith in the US population to (a) care, and (b) act on it.

      I suspect any invasion would be structured as a rescue of some victimized population (Albertan separatists? Teens receiving gender affirming care? Anglos in Quebec?), and would yoink something of value (water? oil?) so it wouldn’t be a broad based invasion.

      If any countries came to Canada’s aid with their own military force then it would get even uglier.

      The US remains the world’s largest economy and biggest military spender.

      I’m sure there would be a strongly worded proclamation from the UN General Assembly, and NATO would perform some mental gymnastics to avoid article 5.

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        That puts a lot of faith in the US population to (a) care, and (b) act on it.

        Because, as of the time of writing this, the average US citizen hasn’t had their way of life impacted enough yet. Despite Trump taking a gigantic shit on the US, most people in the country are still living life relatively unimpeded at the moment.

        That is not going to be the case if the US has an active conflict on its own soil. They will be forced to care when drone strikes and resistance attacks start occurring in their cities and towns, when martial law is declared, when food and material shortages begin, and so on. Right now one of the biggest things the US population has to worry about are tariffs. If war is declared on Canada then they will have to worry about tariffs, sanctions, and the loss of one of their largest agricultural and energy suppliers. The US gets nearly all of its potash from Canada.

        On top of all that, the instability and distraction in the US would almost certainly embolden other groups that see opportunity, such as the Mexican cartels and the Chinese government. Like words cannot even begin to describe how much of a fustercluck it would be.

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      First we blow up the bridges.

      There’s a large concentration of US military bases in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York.

      There’s no access via land to the 75% of the Canadian population that live in Ontario and Quebec.

      Then we mine the St. Laurence, and narrow waterways near Sault St. Marie and the northern coast of lake superior, the Detroit river and its connection to lake erie.

      Then we round up all the separatists and McMAGA’s.

      Then we give everyone guns.

      Then we take Alaska.