In my opinion, AI just feels like the logical next step for capitalist exploitation and destruction of culture. Generative AI is (in most cases) just a fancy way for cooperations to steal art on a scale, that hasn’t been possible before. And then they use AI to fill the internet with slop and misinformation and actual artists are getting fired from their jobs, because the company replaces them with an AI, that was trained on their original art. Because of these reasons and some others, it just feels wrong to me, to be using AI in such a manner, when this community should be about inclusion and kindness. Wouldn’t it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner or find a nice existing artwork (where the licence fits, of course)? I would love to hear your thoughts!
We know this is the very famous “starry night”, right? Is OP asking to troll, or maybe is there a joke or detail I’m missing, or OP just hasn’t yet seen the Van Gogh and marveled at what was encoded into the painting?
I think they’re talking about the !asklemmy@lemmy.ml community banner. I don’t know why they posted starry night as well.
Yeah, it doesn’t have to do anything with my point, to be honest, I was just trying to make my post prettier to look at. My complaint is about the banner for this community.
Impressive footgun. I agree with your point though, it’s jarring.
If you wanted to make the post look good, why didn’t you commission an artist to make your image? Instead you stole the hard work of another artist without their permission, attribution or compensation.
You know that the painter behind a stary night is long dead and this work is public domain, right?
You know that asking a question isn’t an answer, right?
then your post is next to useless as it stands
I was trying to figure what the hell you were on about
Now I have used both AI and CC/Libre (where I can find what I want) and I see very little issue if Im not coping a living artist - I’m not about to commission an artist for a banner image in my small (personal) lemmy instance
Yeah, and I don’t expect you to. You are still profiting from artwork, that was involuntarily stolen from artists to train this AI. You are not directly copying them, but you are indirectly using their work without their consent. Like I said, I don’t expect you to pay any money for the banner, but you can either search for existing artworks on the internet, that is creative commons (like on pixabay), or if you find something else (from an actual artist, that fits, just ask them nicely and I am shire they would be happy to let you use their artwork for such a purpose for free. I would also be happy to search for something like that myself and suggest you one, if that’s OK for you. It’s not about paying a bunch of money, my point is just, that we should respect artists a bit more.
I have, over the years, done all of the above. I had a site that was adjacent it a minor UK ISP that was even promoted on there forum as a first stop that I asked a photographer if I could use one of their photos that wasn’t CC (before CC/libre was mainstream) with attribution for the sine and associated app.
OK, so why do you still have the AI banner then?
Why should I change one?
Well, I guess you don’t have to. I just think it’s a bit depressing and also pretty disrespectful to artists (I think, I laid out pretty clearly, why I think that). Now, if you don’t care about any of that, I can’t stop you, I guess, this was just meant to be a friendly proposal.
A couple things. I don’t think the attached image makes the entire post “next to useless”, and you know you don’t have to set a banner image at all, right? Or, if you want one, you can put on a contest in the community, or just make one in paint or Photoshop yourself. You don’t need to jump to the slop machine, AI images are usually worse than nothing at all imo. An AI banner is “next to useless”.
well it does, the post as it stands makes little to no scene with the attached image.
I don’t have to set a banner, and 4 of the 6 communities I mod/admin that have banner images I own the copyright on, 1 is a photo from my brother and the last is AI. The banner on the instance is CC by a local photographer