Interesting because there’s a very old gay stereotype that they’re extremely violent. These days, it’s usually that gay men are effeminate and passive, and I think a lot of people don’t even realize this stereotype existed.
Baron Harkonnen and Scar (The Lion King) are examples.
The Baron Harkonnen example is interesting because the author was admittedly homophobic when he wrote the character, but later regretted the choice after making amends with his gay son.
Disney never comes right out and says these things about their cartoons. Ursula is based directly on the drag artist Divine, but you won’t catch a Disney executive admitting that.
Ursula is pretty easy to understand, because that’s so 1:1 with Divine and there are direct confirmations.
With Scar one of the supervising animators, Andreas Deja, is openly gay (now, not at the time because it was the 90s) and has spoken about adding campiness and other gay influence to his work.
With other examples it’s a bit more difficult, because to understand it you need to understand how the Hays Code affected the portrayal of queer people on screen. The short version is that queer people weren’t allowed to be overtly portrayed at all, so any characters with queer coded behavior (by 30s to 60s standards) wound up as villains. As this becomes more entrenched in media, these mannerisms became shorthand for villain, so by the time the 90s rolls around the people referencing these tropes might not be familiar with their origin.
For the long version, see the documentary The Celluloid Closet.
Out of curiosity, did you copy the link from someone else’s comment on another instance? I’ve literally never seen a Blahaj comment get caught by a censor filter for anything, much less a .com
I’mma be honest, I’m struggling to trace your intended source. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.wordpress.com/ doesn’t work, WordPress tells me it doesn’t exist. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.com/ (which is what your earlier comment implies it should be) doesn’t exist in DNS. Google searching for “queeringthenetautumn2014” and for “gender-representation-in-lion-king” and similar turns up nothing useful.
Interesting because there’s a very old gay stereotype that they’re extremely violent. These days, it’s usually that gay men are effeminate and passive, and I think a lot of people don’t even realize this stereotype existed.
Baron Harkonnen and Scar (The Lion King) are examples.
Jafar. i don’t think these characters often represent violent crime though. more often just deviousness
Captain Hook, evil dandy trope.
The Baron Harkonnen example is interesting because the author was admittedly homophobic when he wrote the character, but later regretted the choice after making amends with his gay son.
Examples of that older stereotype, you mean?
I’d never have guessed Scar were gay.
Disney never comes right out and says these things about their cartoons. Ursula is based directly on the drag artist Divine, but you won’t catch a Disney executive admitting that.
But yes, Scar is basically the gay uncle.
The stage musical version tried to no-homo him
… By turning him into an attempted rapist instead.
Not doubting, but can I read someone’s commentary that explains this more?
https://time.com/6282514/little-mermaid-ursula-drag-queen-divine/
Ursula is pretty easy to understand, because that’s so 1:1 with Divine and there are direct confirmations.
With Scar one of the supervising animators, Andreas Deja, is openly gay (now, not at the time because it was the 90s) and has spoken about adding campiness and other gay influence to his work.
With other examples it’s a bit more difficult, because to understand it you need to understand how the Hays Code affected the portrayal of queer people on screen. The short version is that queer people weren’t allowed to be overtly portrayed at all, so any characters with queer coded behavior (by 30s to 60s standards) wound up as villains. As this becomes more entrenched in media, these mannerisms became shorthand for villain, so by the time the 90s rolls around the people referencing these tropes might not be familiar with their origin.
For the long version, see the documentary The Celluloid Closet.
Thank you!
I have done the web search for you. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.removed/2014/11/gender-representation-in-lion-king.html
What the heck why is my link being censored?
There should be a.com where it says removedSee my comment farther downOut of curiosity, did you copy the link from someone else’s comment on another instance? I’ve literally never seen a Blahaj comment get caught by a censor filter for anything, much less a .com
Turns out there’s a spam filter on blogspot links because spam bots very frequently send links to them
I’mma be honest, I’m struggling to trace your intended source. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.wordpress.com/ doesn’t work, WordPress tells me it doesn’t exist. https://queeringthenetautumn2014.com/ (which is what your earlier comment implies it should be) doesn’t exist in DNS. Google searching for “queeringthenetautumn2014” and for “gender-representation-in-lion-king” and similar turns up nothing useful.
Thanks. I wanted a trustworthy source from someone knowledgeable, not whatever slop pops up when I google “is scar gay” 😁