These types of protest. While large and making national news are very unlikely to have that type of response.
These protest are liberals going out and feeling like they did something. Which is obviously better than liberals not going out at all.
The protests that get physical response are the ones that have the potential to build into larger and more active movements. Protest with simple goals like “prevent vehicles from leaving the ICE facility”. As someone that’s been to protest with that goal. 100-200 people with a real material goal are much more likely to have police response than a planned parade.
These “no kings” style protest are essentially just that: planned parades. And are directed through the city in very much the same way. Again, I am not against them. But they are not serving the same purpose.
The military is NOT being used because the size of protest are large. The military is being used as a political tool to form a narrative that justifies more use of violence against civilians.
They wont attack these “protest parades” filled with large amounts of people that are not directly effected by negative effects of their fascist policies. It is much better to keep them as once a month parade members than to risk radicalizing large amounts of them into full time activists if they ever felt the sting of tear gas.
Yes. Because that’s all I said in my comment and that’s the only thing you should take from it. /s
Replies like yours are why I fucking hate the internet. Engage in the actual substance of the comment maybe; instead of just straw manning what I said for the sake of disagreement.
No. It doesn’t. You rewrote one sentence I said and then pretended like that was the thesis of the comment.
The comment was talking about the use of force and military towards protests. I was pointing out the material difference between “weekend protesters” collecting in mass for a few hours and other people actively preventing ICE from leaving their facilities and being met with violence.
It wasn’t a “bash” on liberals. I want them to go out and do their mass protests. It does help them become radicalized to do more.
It was an explanation of WHY you won’t see high levels of police violence at these large “No Kings” style protest.
Because they don’t threaten the ability for ICE to hurt people. Are they good in other ways? Absolutely. But that wasn’t the point of my comment and it wasn’t what was being asked in the comment I replied to.
It’s the difference between a person holding up a sign that says “save the Forrest” and another person chaining themselves to the God damn tree.
That was my point. So, nothing you have said in response is at all being critical of what I actually said. You’re just straw manning.
These types of protest. While large and making national news are very unlikely to have that type of response.
These protest are liberals going out and feeling like they did something. Which is obviously better than liberals not going out at all.
The protests that get physical response are the ones that have the potential to build into larger and more active movements. Protest with simple goals like “prevent vehicles from leaving the ICE facility”. As someone that’s been to protest with that goal. 100-200 people with a real material goal are much more likely to have police response than a planned parade.
These “no kings” style protest are essentially just that: planned parades. And are directed through the city in very much the same way. Again, I am not against them. But they are not serving the same purpose.
The military is NOT being used because the size of protest are large. The military is being used as a political tool to form a narrative that justifies more use of violence against civilians.
They wont attack these “protest parades” filled with large amounts of people that are not directly effected by negative effects of their fascist policies. It is much better to keep them as once a month parade members than to risk radicalizing large amounts of them into full time activists if they ever felt the sting of tear gas.
Organizing is step one. Calling it a liberal feel good party does the fascists work for them.
Yes. Because that’s all I said in my comment and that’s the only thing you should take from it. /s
Replies like yours are why I fucking hate the internet. Engage in the actual substance of the comment maybe; instead of just straw manning what I said for the sake of disagreement.
What about my comment implies I didn’t read the whole thing? My point still stands
No. It doesn’t. You rewrote one sentence I said and then pretended like that was the thesis of the comment.
The comment was talking about the use of force and military towards protests. I was pointing out the material difference between “weekend protesters” collecting in mass for a few hours and other people actively preventing ICE from leaving their facilities and being met with violence.
It wasn’t a “bash” on liberals. I want them to go out and do their mass protests. It does help them become radicalized to do more.
It was an explanation of WHY you won’t see high levels of police violence at these large “No Kings” style protest.
Because they don’t threaten the ability for ICE to hurt people. Are they good in other ways? Absolutely. But that wasn’t the point of my comment and it wasn’t what was being asked in the comment I replied to.
It’s the difference between a person holding up a sign that says “save the Forrest” and another person chaining themselves to the God damn tree.
That was my point. So, nothing you have said in response is at all being critical of what I actually said. You’re just straw manning.