this has been around for decades and it’s funny people are only just picking up on it now due to videogames.
I used to work in the adult entertainment industry way back in the early 00s as a web developer and yeah visa and mc’s rules were stupid. like an actual list of rules. no fisting was a major one. 4 fingers? fine. slip in a thumb? yup visa and mc can dig it. ball your hand into a fist? THAT’S TOO FAR FOR VISA AND MASTERCARD!
I worked for a self publishing company long, long ago. It turns out, most of our best selling authors made NSFW stuff. Eventually our payment processor complained. So our CFO called around to a bunch of big porn companies and asked them which payment processors they used. Those companies were fine.
A guide book to female domination. Some sissy stuff with mature cover art. Right next to history books and Earthbound fan art. I felt good about it. Serving a real need.
I’m wondering if this is Visa and MasterCard covering their arses legally.
When you buy on credit card you get extra protections like chargebacks and section 75 so if a company goes bust or doesn’t do what you paid then for then the credit card company gives you your money back and the company owes them money rather than you.
But is that a double edged sword so if you buy something technically illegal where you live (and there’s a lot of odd local porn laws), then they’re somehow on the hook for that too?
I suspect a lot of stores are just pulling what is probably a tiny percent of their revenue because they don’t have a good way to prevent you buying just that on CC or working out which territory it’s legal in, under threat of having all their credit card charging facilities taken away…
it really wasn’t though. I don’t recall all of the rules they handed down but some of them were just…they didn’t make a whole lot of sense. Like a couple of examples. first being piss videos. if the content was filmed in Europe with European talent then Visa and MC were fine with it. IF you wanted to do the SAME content but it was filmed in the US with US talent then no, you couldn’t sell it. Maybe laws in Europe for peeing on people are different than the US? I don’t know.
Next was stuff like gang bang or orgy vids. I remember this one specifically cause one of the editors would ALWAYS complain about it. If a woman was getting nailed every which way by multiple guys at the end of the video she HAD to be interviewed to show that she really enjoyed what just happened to her. IF there was no post jizz party ted talk then Visa and MC would lose their collective minds. No one watched that shit but it had to be in there. so if you’re ever watching one of these videos and you wonder ‘why the hell is she giving an interview at the end of this thing?’ it’s cause Visa and MC need it.
That is honestly fascinating. I can appreciate there is an argument for consent in there, but if they were truly concerned about consent they would make that very clear. Seems almost as if they don’t care until they get enough complaints and then establish very specific rules exclusive to limited permutations of region and content.
this has been around for decades and it’s funny people are only just picking up on it now due to videogames.
I used to work in the adult entertainment industry way back in the early 00s as a web developer and yeah visa and mc’s rules were stupid. like an actual list of rules. no fisting was a major one. 4 fingers? fine. slip in a thumb? yup visa and mc can dig it. ball your hand into a fist? THAT’S TOO FAR FOR VISA AND MASTERCARD!
I worked for a self publishing company long, long ago. It turns out, most of our best selling authors made NSFW stuff. Eventually our payment processor complained. So our CFO called around to a bunch of big porn companies and asked them which payment processors they used. Those companies were fine.
A guide book to female domination. Some sissy stuff with mature cover art. Right next to history books and Earthbound fan art. I felt good about it. Serving a real need.
A shame we never got Chuck.
I’m wondering if this is Visa and MasterCard covering their arses legally.
When you buy on credit card you get extra protections like chargebacks and section 75 so if a company goes bust or doesn’t do what you paid then for then the credit card company gives you your money back and the company owes them money rather than you.
But is that a double edged sword so if you buy something technically illegal where you live (and there’s a lot of odd local porn laws), then they’re somehow on the hook for that too?
I suspect a lot of stores are just pulling what is probably a tiny percent of their revenue because they don’t have a good way to prevent you buying just that on CC or working out which territory it’s legal in, under threat of having all their credit card charging facilities taken away…
hehe
I’m laughing, man. Made my day
Maybe it was a violence thing? Like they don’t want to advocate for punching someone in the cervix? 🤔
If they objected to violence in general this would be a fair thought, but they don’t.
Yes, you’re right. I was just being facetious because I had never thought of it as punching before and the thought was silly to me.
Maybe it deserves a new term? Like… Boxing?
it really wasn’t though. I don’t recall all of the rules they handed down but some of them were just…they didn’t make a whole lot of sense. Like a couple of examples. first being piss videos. if the content was filmed in Europe with European talent then Visa and MC were fine with it. IF you wanted to do the SAME content but it was filmed in the US with US talent then no, you couldn’t sell it. Maybe laws in Europe for peeing on people are different than the US? I don’t know.
Next was stuff like gang bang or orgy vids. I remember this one specifically cause one of the editors would ALWAYS complain about it. If a woman was getting nailed every which way by multiple guys at the end of the video she HAD to be interviewed to show that she really enjoyed what just happened to her. IF there was no post jizz party ted talk then Visa and MC would lose their collective minds. No one watched that shit but it had to be in there. so if you’re ever watching one of these videos and you wonder ‘why the hell is she giving an interview at the end of this thing?’ it’s cause Visa and MC need it.
Sounds like policy was driven by case law and the desire not to be sued.
That is honestly fascinating. I can appreciate there is an argument for consent in there, but if they were truly concerned about consent they would make that very clear. Seems almost as if they don’t care until they get enough complaints and then establish very specific rules exclusive to limited permutations of region and content.