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    The main r/conservative response became: If Trump was in the files, or of they existed the Dems would have released them. They also said Trump’s popularity went UP two points during the recent Epstein events.

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      Not if:

      1. The files were not yet available for the government to peruse freely.
      2. Important Democrats are also in the files.
      3. People who donate money or in other ways are in cohorts with the democrats are in the files.
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          This is always the response I get-

          Wow, I never considered that perspective! Thank you for your reasonable, logic-based argument. I am convinced Trump is actually awful

          Works every time.

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    I keep hearing about these epstein files not being released, but weren’t they a year or two ago? I remember being able to look up names in an epstein list and making jokes with coworkers about the names in it. That happened. Was that not the epstein files? What am I not understanding?

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      Thanks to the Conservative media ecosystem, “The Epstein Files” became a shorthand term for, “List of people with ties to Epstein who are provably, definitely pedophiles, who should be arrested, tried and convicted immediately.”

      While a great deal of information surrounding Epstein’s crimes have been released, there has yet to be a “smoking gun” definitively proving any specific person associated with him had sex with underage victims (except for Maxwell, who’s in jail right now). MAGAs are mad that they haven’t been give a list of elite pedos who belong in jail.

      But I mean, c’mon – list or no, Trump is clearly a pedophile.

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        Katie Johnson/Jane Doe (1994)

        In April 2016, an anonymous woman using the pseudonym “Katie Johnson” filed a lawsuit in California accusing both Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping her when she was 13 years old at underage sex parties at Epstein’s Manhattan residence in 1994.[51][52] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by the same woman as “Jane Doe” claiming to have been raped and sexually assaulted by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13.[53][54] The lawsuit was refiled in September,[55] and on November 2, Doe was scheduled to appear at a press conference at the office of Lisa Bloom before abruptly canceling; Bloom said Jane Doe had received multiple threats.[56][57]

        “I loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop, but he did not,” Jane Doe wrote in a formal declaration accompanying her recent suits. “Defendant Trump responded to my pleas by violently striking me in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. … Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed.”

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

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      Oh, and here’s a copy and paste from that other social media site that lists the majority of information that’s already available:


      Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

      https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

      https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

      Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

      Here’s the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

      —————————other Epstein Information

      https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.

      Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo

      —————————other Trump information:

      Here’s trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY

      Trump’s promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”

      Adding the court affidavit from Katie, as well: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-267d-dda3-afd8-b67d3bc00000

      Never forget Katie Johnson.

      Trump’s modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/

      Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too! Please copy and paste this elsewhere!