I had a good friend who isn’t usually very politically engaged (we’re Canadian and he leans Conservative) text me this story. Along with the following:
“Wow. I know Trump gets away with a lot of shit, you told me ICE is arresting innocent people every day, but this shit is atrocious. No way conservatives let this slide…”
Oh sweet summer child…
Your friend supports pedophiles, Nazis, and racism, fascism, what a great friend.
That’s bullshit. My friend is a wonderful person who hasn’t actually voted for a Conservative government in over a decade. “Sheer was a joke. Pollievre is a clown.” Are his exact words. He wants more military spending for the Canadian forces where he served for years, and he’s highly skeptical of higher taxes, convinced that rich people will always find a way to weasel out. He’s against minimum wage hikes because “the corporations will just raise prices”. Because of these reasons, he identifies as Conservative, albeit one who votes Liberal because the CPC is a joke. He’s right of me but thats where most people are.
This is a man who, is bi himself and strongly supports LGBTQ rights, and went no contact with his own brother because his coke-addled brother wouldn’t stop spouting racist shit.
Stop with bullshit “everyone to my right is Nazi” stuff. You don’t know anything and it helps no one.
PSA:
Conservative ≠ MAGA
Conservative ≠ Republican
This should be stapled on Lemmy as these seem to get twisted quite a lot around here. If you’re ever unsure, look up the differences and proof read your material.
Bro lmao, so first you dont even have a clue how your friend leans, you’re arguing both sides. Second, then how come your friend is surprised at what ICE and Trump is doing and all the rest? I call fucking bullshit, your “friend” is clearly into right wing fascist rabbit holes and loves Trump
You just want to defend your friend no matter what they support, even right wing extremism
So he doesn’t lean conservative. He’s a lib.
Focus less on gatekeeping and more on finding allies against the fascists.
He self-identifies as Conservative, when talking to me, which is 99% of the time he spends discussing politics.
I dunno. Feels like we lost the thread here. If it makes you guys happy, sure. By “leans Conservative” I actually meant “center-right Liberal”. Everyone cool with that?
We’re in the world of “you are who you voted for” but also “you are (the most extreme among) who voted for you” so anyone in any group (among the opposition) is equated with the most extreme of that group and therefore just plain evil so must be opposed with maximum force. Mom and pop pickup truck from (rural red state) are actually just goose-stepping storm troopers poised to strike at any moment.
Well said! I can’t understand why everything these days thinks so black and white.
Let’s spend less time trying to label everyone as an extreme this or that and focus on uniting against a common enemy.
Cool
I mean. Nothing about his status as a veteran matters to these fascists. He volunteered to join the army, the gov doesn’t consider him anything more than a number already. Isn’t this the same gov that’s rescinding promises to Afghan folks who helped during our invasion?
The constitution of united states no longer is in effect, what’s left?
You guys still have all those rifles?
We have state constitutions!
It hasnt gotten bad enough yet for ordinary people to invoke the second amendment.
NRA seems to have forgotten to rise against that tyranycal government
It’ll never be bad enough for that.
All those people who can’t stop mentioning the second amendment are the same people that voted trump in to begin with so yeah…
I need guns to fight against Tyranny but gimme a minute whilst I vote a tyrant into office!
exactly what Republicans voted for
I am both a VFW and American Legion member and not one of their news letters are addressing this.
If you are a member of VFW, why are you a member of American Legion?
Why would membership in one preclude membership in the other? It’s an earnest question, I don’t know anything about either organization, but didn’t find anything relevant in their Wikipedia pages
I responded to Profthadbach
Essentially there is no real reason you can’t, it’s just kind of redundant.
I wasn’t trying to be a jerk either, just not sure why.
Both require dues and both provide the same services.
(One is for service members who fought in a foreign war, the other is for service members who didn’t fight in foreign wars.
Why not both?
Typically VFW is for veterans who fought and American Legion is for service members who didn’t fight.
I guess there is no real reason why you can’t join both, but it’s like joining two car wash clubs.
The arrest unfolded on July 10 when federal immigration officers carried out large-scale raids at two Glass House marijuana farms in Carpinteria and Camarillo and arrested over 300 people – part of an ongoing trend of immigration enforcement at worksites like farms and construction sites that have struck fear into immigrant communities.
Protesters showed up. He was arrested trying to get to work.
Paywall
Bypassed it for me