• Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    16 hours ago

    There’s no pickpocketing in the US because thieves will shoot you before taking your wallet. At that point it’s murder with a motive

    • Wilco@lemmy.zip
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      15 hours ago

      No, it is because pickpocketing can be argued as being an assault in the US. If you catch someone pickpocketing you it is legal to defend yourself and your property.

      • Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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        10 hours ago

        …and that’s why they start with maximum violence out of the bat. If for you as a criminal the outcome is the same, why risk it and start with random pickpocket, when you will be tried as if you assaulted a person, start with an assault, safer for you, same risk.

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          6 hours ago

          I am flabbergasted you think that a petty assault charge for pickpocketing is even in the same building as pre meditated murder with a lethal weapon.

          The us is bad sure, but not the only nation with a similar system (I know here someone will take a swing at a pickpocketer) and yet the murder rate is not higher then average in the world.

          • Wilco@lemmy.zip
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            1 hour ago

            I was thinking the same thing. Try and pickpocket someone and get caught/punched and the thief might get a few months in jail. Going straight to assault/murder over a wallet is straight up crackhead mentality.

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          Definitely. My city has a huge yearly street festival and the police stand on the roofs of buildings to watch for pickpockets. Each year we will see a few getting caught by the “victims”, most of the time there will be four or five people beating on the thief by the time the police get there. All the police do is haul the pickpocket away. So it seems like a legal “gray area” where I am from.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      16 hours ago

      I was thinking it was because, in many places people are carrying in public, and if you steal from the wrong person, you’re dead.

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          14 hours ago

          I mean, its not like thoae fascist pigs will do anything to help. Shoot first ask later is the 'Murican way.

          Four ruffians break into my house. “What the devil?” As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he’s dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it’s smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, “Tally ho lads” the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.

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          15 hours ago

          Well, I imagine this culture change happened a long time ago, and it never came back because of… well the implication.

          • Hikermick@lemmy.world
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            15 hours ago

            Change happened alright. The murder rate in my city rose 20% after the outgoing republican governor permitted conceal and carry by executive order on his way out the door after losing reelection (2007)