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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 3 days ago

Republicans test a new red line: Denaturalization

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Republicans test a new red line: Denaturalization

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White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt was asked about the possibility of revoking Zohran Mamdani’s citizenship status and didn’t say no.
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  • dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    all the environmental prophecies I heard while I was in DSA are coming true

    • they closed the border

    • they’re oppressing unpapered migrants

    • they’re kicking people out who were here with all the proper paperwork

    • they’re working on ways to revoke citizenship

    literally everything I was told ten years ago about how this was gonna go down is how it is going down. stopped watch and all, I know, but still. it’s just very surreal to see it so fucking obvious, so very soon.

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      It’s happening so fast and yet slow enough where i feel the population is just adjusting to it being the new normal. Very surreal

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    It’s not new though. They did it during the McCarthy era.

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    I don’t mean to imply this isn’t bad, but hasn’t the legal precedent for over a decade been that the president can order anyone killed in the interest of national security without any sort of judicial review? If they can just kill citizens with drone strikes then “citizenship” doesn’t really mean that much.

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    You’re safe if you’re brown and work in business or tech though!

    Really funny how that works

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    Ice got 130 billion today they’re gonna dissappear literally whoever the fuck they want

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    Chuds: “WE ONLY CARE ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS”

    Also chuds:

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      us-foreign-policy

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    I remember asking on reddit before the election that if Trump and the Republican party are so bad then why don’t we revoke Trump’s citizenship and people (libs) freaked the heck out; lots of ‘You can’t defeat tyranny by becoming tyrants! Then you just have tyranny!’, or ‘That’s a catch 22! You’re trying to defeat tyranny by becoming a tyrant!’, or ‘behaving like this is what dictatorships do, and if you want to see what a dictatorship looks like, then wait until Trump wins!’

    For reference and the irony:

    EDIT (the actual link; I linked the wrong page): https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/1dssr87/if_trump_or_the_republican_party_is_actually_that/

    So basically don’t fix the problem via the method that Republicans would absolutely fix theirs

    I would go back and ask all these people how it’s going now but they’ve spent the whole time since Kamala lost herself the election blaming the rest of us

    Also the post is downvoted to zero because

    Also some comment about something something iphones can’t cheeseburgers

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      So basically don’t fix the problem via the method that Republicans would absolutely fix theirs

      That’s literally liberals’ MO

      “We can’t do good thing because it would set a terrible new precedent!”

      Conservatives immediately set new precedent by doing something atrocious that liberals could have slowed, averted entirely, or at least taken advantage of if they did the good thing

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      I felt the same vibe when european soc dems were rebuking Macron for going after LePen for corruption or whatever it was. Like if she’s actually fascist, you dont decide to play electoralism with them. Doesnt help that macron sucks

      Edit: I find the top comment so revealing of the liberal consciousness:

      I mean for one huge reason among many others, there is no legal mechanism to do what you are suggesting.

      It’s like asking why I can’t make my iPhone eat a hamburger. It has neither the programming nor the physical characteristics necessary for it to perform that action.

      They see the laws of the US as material things, like the laws of physics. They dont even consider the millions of times Republicans/Trump/Billionaires/Corporations ignore and violate the laws with no repercussions. They are living in a fantasy world

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        I’m fully supporting right-wing infighting.

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      When the Supreme Court ruled a president could do anything so long as it was done “as part of a president’s official duties”, including literal assassination, it was clear the fascists knew the Dems were toothless.

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      I know it’s bad for our mental health to engage on reddit-logo, but I always admire the few remaining brave comrades who go there and make the libs shit themselves.

      rosa-salute Thank you for your service.

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      A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

      • redlib.nohost.network
      • red.ngn.tf
      • redlib.tux.pizza
      • libreddit.projectsegfau.lt
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        The actual link: https://www.reddit.com/r/TooAfraidToAsk/comments/1dssr87/if_trump_or_the_republican_party_is_actually_that/

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          A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

          • redlib.nohost.network
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    president cannot break the law so go ahead i guess

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    One thing both the libs and chuds can come together over: shitting on the left.

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      collusion

      • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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        Democrats gonna find out what that trunk do

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    Do it, you cowards. Bring on the Balkanization.

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    Please do it. Would portend absolutely awful news for me but I’m tired of my life, I want to enter the cool zone

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    Aryan master race to our rescue. Oops, turns out many of us don’t fit. Nevermind, we can ignore that as MY life will improve.

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    this can’t be right felix and will told us that trump 2.0 wasn’t gonna be a big deal

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      Basically all of hexbear shared that attitude until after it became clear that term 2 wasnt gonna be like term 1.

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        Yes? Have people changed their mind on that? There is very little difference I can see thus far. Randomly hinting at doing new illegal shit was basically all that happened in Term 1, and that’s what this is.

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          I hope you’re right. I really do.

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            Are we really doing Reddit style Trump-specific scaremongering now? He is just a typical member of the bourgeois class. He may be 99% or 98% Hitler, but the distinction is incredibly boring.

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      Those two get paid as much as medical doctors per year every month

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      Kamala would have still lost. The new york crimes just posted an article that even with increased voter turnout, Kamala would have lost.

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        oh no doubt, I’m not saying otherwise. She was polling what, fourth in the 2020 primaries in her own state before she dropped out?

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    Where we goin?

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    vote

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