I started to notice a intense automation and Artificial Intelligence Investments from companies and that made me wonder, what would happen or what should be done with the people who can’t be trained for a new job and can’t use his current skills to to get a job.
How would he live or what would he do in life? More importantly, what should be done with him to make him useful or at least neutral rather than being a negative on the society?
Re-employ them and fire anyone who says more AI should be added.
People’s value doesn’t lie in their ability to perform labor. Being “useful” isn’t important. What should be done, is that everyone should have their needs met so they can do with their lives what they want. There’s a lot of theoretical ways to try and do that, but none of them are of interest in a capitalist society.
I love this comment. Now we’ve dealt with that, what are we gonna do with bored rich folk like Musk or JK Rowling whose entire purpose seems to be creating division and hate?
We should build an army of them to kill all the porkies who think unemployable people are negatives on society
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create government bureau that figures out how many people a company would need to employ without automation
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tax that company the equivalent of those people’s salaries
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fund UBI
Fuck capitalism.
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Look again at why these people no longer have work available to them.
If advancements in technology mean that a machine can do the job more efficiently than a human, then the value of that labour still exists, we just need to legislate a redistribution of it now that human employment is no longer doing it directly.
Once we update our tax codes to ensure that the wealth of automation is shared equitably, the question then becomes “what do you want to do with your free time?”
More importantly, what should be done with him to make him useful or at least neutral rather than being a negative on the society?
They are part of the society. Stop pitting the individual against the society and vice versa, if a society can’t support its members it needs to be abolished.
Done by who? Done how? Tf does this mean
There are plenty of societies that have strong state-backed training and education programs. The AI narrative is majority a smokescreen for financialization and downsizing of firms and privatizarion of the state
Just like with the blockchain, China’s been the first to implement a version with an actual use - not financial speculation and buying drugs, and a more power and resource efficient version - of overhyped tech financial bubble buzzword technologies, because they don’t judge its utility differently than any other technology. They don’t have these religious financial cults around AI
They will likely be the only nation other than close regional SEA allies to implement AI in governance effectively instead of using it to somehow make servers using UI from 2014 worse + more insecure & strengthening the Tesla/Palantir/Anduril investor pitch " The Evil Privatized Government Has Anointed Us Chief Devourer of the State Social Services/Tech/Green Energy Budget" where everyone can stuff the 1 trillion dollars the fed prints daily for banks
First worlders who want to pull themselves back out of the hole somehow should stop focusing singlemindedly on minimum wage struggle and public debt, and start worrying about land reform, access to hours + employment, and public housing.
Those who can work, should. Those who cannot should be taken care of by those who can. Comprehensive training programs and free education helps both, as well as subsized or free necessities.
People have a right to exist and society has a responsibility to care for those who cannot work. The whole point of society is to ensure the health and well being of their members as a WHOLE. If a society cannot or will not care for their elderly or infirm then that is a failed society.
Universal Basic Income.
Every single human, regardless of work, should have nutritious, culturally appropriate, tasty food; a dignified home suited to their needs; clothes in good condition etc.
culturally appropriate
tasty
Screams in northern Scandinavian
You will eat your fermented fish and you will like it!
(Just meant that ppl who eat halal or vegetarian or something can get that lol)
In all honesty, I love both rakfisk and lutefisk. They are fantastic and wildly underrated food. I will die on this hill.
Oh, and sursild, sennepssild, and all that other good sild stuff. That’s also awesome.
The swedes can keep the surströmning to themselves though. That shit is not fit for human consumption.
Since this question is asking “should”, I think it’s fine to answer with a rational but radical answer:
- People can be useful to society even if they aren’t employed in our current economies. Retired people may not have jobs, but often still perform productive or necessary labor, like maintenance, artistic contributions, child care, historical preservation. When someone isn’t working for money, they still often voluntarily work for society!
- I believe that, generally speaking, it’s within society’s best interest, even just from an economic standpoint, to support these people even if they aren’t formally employable.
- Looking at most capitalist countries, overproduction is normal. Usable property remains empty just because an owner wants more money for their investment. Perfectly edible food is systematically thrown in bins rather than given to hungry people for free, or rejected by stores because it doesn’t look perfect (like an oddly shaped carrot). Clothes are thrown out once they’re “unfashionable”.
We have all the resources needed to support everyone, and it wouldn’t take much extra effort from a determined government to get those resources where they need to go. There’s no reason why unemployed people should be left to starve and freeze simply because they don’t have enough income. In our society, the scarcity of basic needs is artificial (‘artificial scarcity’).
Automation is seen as a bad thing, a threat, because workers in society are threatened with starvation if they don’t have the income needed for food, shelter, medicine and perhaps basic luxuries. But if our political economy were first-and-foremost based around society’s needs instead of profiting, and therefore we used our modern technology to automate the production of these basic needs and distribute them, then suddenly automation would mean free time and easier labor!
Work less as a society, so finally switch to the 32h weeks and setup the Universal basic income, it would allow to share the work (because someone needs to pick-up the thrash) and leverage on the productivity gains to benefit to everyone.
Provide training, and support life-long education, you should keep your unemployment rights while attending university as an adult for example, but also offer more short training including some level update for people whose skill got rusty in a previous job.
Promote non merchant activities. A volunteer who coaches kids sport or plays amateur theatre in nursing home and hospital does more good to society than a marketing corporate executive, why are the latter seen as more important ?
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I am ready for my cushy CEO job pls
it’s cheaper to pay them to live a basic existence than to police them for comitting crimes.
That’s why you privatize prisons for profit and lobby to keep it that way.
at that point just turn them into soylent