When it comes to AI models, China is streets ahead in openness.
No one was talking about openness, we were talking about data collection.
All openai data goes to the NSA
Online deepseek data goes to the CCP. Local models stay private.
You’re comparing online models with local models. Local OpenAI models are also private.
The only people believing that Americans are superior in everything are Americans.
Good thing no one said that. It’s not just America either. Most countries are significantly more free than China (and Russia and North Korea), and if you don’t believe that, you need to open your eyes.
Okay at this point its pretty clear you have no intention of good faith discussion and want to constantly redirect the conversation to a strawman argument so I’m going to bail.
No one was talking about openness, we were talking about data collection.
You’re comparing online models with local models. Local OpenAI models are also private.
Good thing no one said that. It’s not just America either. Most countries are significantly more free than China (and Russia and North Korea), and if you don’t believe that, you need to open your eyes.
The only way to ensure no data collection is to run locally, which requires openness.
Correct
They don’t exist, and privacy cannot be guaranteed.
So you do think that.
The word used was “worse” which is highly subjective.
Residents of “the land of the free” don’t understand irony.
Okay at this point its pretty clear you have no intention of good faith discussion and want to constantly redirect the conversation to a strawman argument so I’m going to bail.
Dude, you are the one inserting words like “freedom” trying to slide the conversation.
China is not worse , principally because worse is unmeasurable.