I think ar might be a dead dream in its current state, I always thought wed have proper ar glasses by now because I fell for Magic Leaps Marketting, not sure if it’ll come anytime soon.

What I do believe is coming is the resurgence of computers through mobile phones. Everyone has a powerful computer in their pockets but isn’t able to use them to their full potential. I wouldn’t be suprised if android pushed out a proper android desktop experience letting android users get the full linux desktop experience when plugged into a monitor, mouse, and keyboard.

Phone performance is stronger than the average laptops/netbooks from 10 years age and they run linux fine for everyday use. Feels like a missed opportunity if someone doesn’t drop a phone or os that lets you take advantage of modern hardwares capability. They could advertise it to families, mo more buying a pc for school, just get them hardware for their existing device, it can already do everything. Schools could use lapdocks, or tabletdocks, that could force school parental controls on devices while at school and still let them use it for their education while in class.

(obviously not everyone has a phone but that frees up resources for the kids that dont, if the kids that do can use cheaper docks with their exisitnt hardware)

  • dil@lemmy.zipOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 day ago

    always workarounds for technical ppl, itd be completely different if it was built into android tho and came with an update to existing phones

    • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      18 hours ago

      What are the gaps in functionality for nontechnical people? And “apps that exist on Linux but not Android” doesn’t count, because such people are unlikely to have ever even used a Linux desktop in the first place. The improvement that matters won’t be Linux apps; it’ll be Android apps that are more usable in desktop mode.

      That said, what are the issues with the apps that are currently available?

      If a user installed Chrome, an office suite (whether that be Google Docs, Sheets, and Slides, the Microsoft equivalent, or something else), an email client, and other commonly available apps, what tasks would they be unable to complete, if any?

      Are these, or other commonly used apps, substantially less usable than on desktop? If so, how so?

      • dil@lemmy.zipOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        12 hours ago

        You dont have to be technical to find use out of an appstore like flathub especially if it was built in to the playstore or a seperate store

      • dil@lemmy.zipOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        12 hours ago

        onlyoffice is a solid ms word, ppt, excel clone for linux, same file format, any linux app, there are many, linux games? wine, hella options?

        • hedgehog@ttrpg.network
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          11 hours ago

          OnlyOffice is available on Android already.

          “any linux app” - I don’t think any nontechnical users want GParted on their Android phones, and it wouldn’t work anyway.

          Android has its own games, same as iOS. Nontechnical users are way more likely to want Windows games than Linux games anyway.

          Wine used to be developed natively for Android but they stopped a few years back. You can still download it at winehq though. I think Box64 with wine is a decent option?

          Overall the thing I’m confused about is why you think Google or any major Android phone manufacturer have a motivation to make native Linux apps more accessible. Google certainly doesn’t want to make it easier for you to use the better versions of their competitors’ apps. Google is moving further away from Linux, not closer. Providing a usable, good enough desktop experience that’s still Android underneath makes far more sense for them.

          Fortunately, like I said earlier, there are workarounds to get access to those Linux apps.

          The thing that is more likely to change is for the creators of Android apps to build apps that function better when used in a phone-as-desktop format. And even if they don’t, there are enough competent web apps out there that just being able to use your browser full screen on a monitor solves 90% of people’s actual use cases - and probably over 95% when you include the other apps that have decent desktop experiences that can be run alongside them.

          The Steam Deck approach is much closer to what you seem to want. The Steam Deck is an actually competent Linux machine that has a Valve-supported compatibility layer in Proton for running non-Linux games. It plugs into a USB-C hub connected to a monitor, mouse, and keyboard just fine, can install any Linux app, etc… It’s completely usable handheld as well. But it isn’t a phone, and even though it’s quite portable, it’s not “stick into your pocket” portable.

          I don’t expect a major manufacturer to make a Linux phone any time soon, and I don’t think the Linux phones that are out already have - or will have in the next 5 years - a smooth enough experience to convince any nontechnical user to switch.

      • dil@lemmy.zipOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        12 hours ago

        blender, dj software like mixx, davinci resolve, video editors, kdenlive, etc. full desktop versions of apps sht on mobile versions still