Please keep signing the petition, to prevent games from being intentionally destroyed by publishers like what happened to The Crew.
You deserve to keep the games you bought with your hard-earned money.
Please keep signing the petition, to prevent games from being intentionally destroyed by publishers like what happened to The Crew.
You deserve to keep the games you bought with your hard-earned money.
I agree, but if one of these persons is piratesoftware I have to do a double take. In fact I originally understood Chet’s position but now that I know this guy agrees with him I’m not so sure.
If you didn’t know, the guy got into Blizzard thanks to nepotism, worked QA and security, got out, and started an indie game that’s been in development hell for 10 years (but he is selling it !). Maybe he knows some stuff about QA and security but as an actual professional gamedev, I have strong opinions about the shit he says in that domain and the sycophants he surrounds himself with to avoid being called out.
Look, I don’t know you, but you must be able to see how that is a horrifying sentence, right?
If we’re looking at the issue based on whether we like the people and not on the merits, or on whether people agree with other people we don’t like, then it’s all pointless. It’s just taking sides for no reason, or a popularity contest.
Let me make it absolutely clear: I don’t give a crap if Faliszek’s writing changed my life and the other guy skins puppies as a hobby. All I was saying earlier is that there seems to be a significant gap in expertise between the people actively having this argument. The fact that they both agree on this has no bearing on whether they are right.
For the record, I think they’re not, for similar reasons. I would love to have a chat with Faliszek about it (although I’m pretty sure I’d have better subjects to bring up), but I’d certainly not do so over the Internet because there is nothing to be salvaged from this conversation at this point.
The more you guys talk the more this seems like crappy high school drama transplanted to the Internet and the less interested I am. Game preservation remains important and hard, but at this point I’m just kinda sad that we’ve wasted the energy debating it with this particular cast of characters and in these particular terms. None of this seems serious or productive at this point.
And I hope you realize I wasn’t being entirely serious.
Look, all I can say to keep it short is that I know piratesoftware is full of shit. I was merely half-jokingly pointing out that imo, he is the last person you’d want to support you in that kind of argument.
And I’m saying, very seriously, that you don’t “support a person”. Either you think the argument is right or you think it’s wrong (or somehwere in that spectrum, it certainly isn’t a binary choice).
Agreeing with something because you think is right is not a judgement of character. I don’t get to choose whether the guy is right, I don’t have a particular stake on his personality and my stance is entirely independent of his.
And the same goes for Faliszek, incidentally.
I don’t know how entirely serious you were, but those are absolutely the parameters of this conversation, not just with you but with everybody chiming in. And those parameters suck. They are extremely toxic and I reject them entirely. Seriously.
Piratesoftware did not understand the original point of the campaign. It’s not that we’re throwing out his words because of his character in general but how he specifically approached this. He misrepresented the petition, insulted Ross and deleted his message reaching out to discuss the topic and then gloated about it on stream.
Ross did not want to talk about the drama but he had to address the elephant in the room as people were listening to the bad faith arguments Thor originally made when they asking about Stop Killing Games in skepticism.
OK, so ignore him. Other people who would know are making similar points about “the campaign”. Argue with one you like in good faith.
If you make it about the Youtube drama you won’t be taken seriously, and some of the points being raised are legitimate. Dismissing them based on the personality of the one guy just because he’s more accessible or more susceptible to ad-hominem dismissals like these won’t help there.