After more than 32,000 speeding tickets were handed out in just three weeks by new automated speed enforcement cameras in community safety zones, council in the City of Vaughan decided to pause the program.
Mayor Steven Del Duca put forward the motion last week to pause the tickets until September, when council is due to receive a report from staff on ways the city can create more effective signage about the presence of cameras.
This is an intelligent and measured move. Make citizens aware that enforcement exists. Then, after making them aware that they’re being monitored, turn on fines. The goal is to reduce speeding drivers, not to collect revenue.
Then there’s cities like Winnipeg where successive city halls have decided that speeding tickets are the bestest cash cow ever!
That cash should go directly into the city to redesign these problems roadways created for cars into streets designed for people.
It should be 1 warning then you get tickets. Right now speeders can keep getting as many warnings as they want and wait to hear on the news when the fines will be implemented.
Most people I know get several 11-15km over tickets all at once a month after the infraction. They’ve already noticed or been told about the machine by the time they get the first ticket, and adjusted their driving.
That’s a better approach. Cheers.
Or, fix the speed limit problem? If a lot of people are doing a certain limit through an area, clearly the limit is the problem… Cities keep lowering speed limits everywhere when traffic seems to struggle to reach limits in the first place. Not sure what exactly they’re expecting to have happen.
Pedestrain safety becomes a concern at higher speeds. Collisons become more intense and more deadly as speed increases. The drivers are the problem, not the speed limit.
If the cars aren’t able to reach the limit due to traffic, how did the cameras hand out so many speeding tickets?
At 30kph, a pedestrian hit by a car survives 90% of the time.
At 50kph, it’s 50/50 if a pedestrian dies.
At 70kph, it’s 90/10 dead body.
As someone in that lucky 10%, I’m all for more enforcement of speed limits.
Wow fuck cars all roads should be 30kph
Great, so set the limits to 70kmh so pedestrians stop being so careless, or lower the limits and put more pedestrian crossings in place.
I walk and drive frequently. Pedestrian safety is important, but we shouldn’t be coddling morons who can’t be safe pedestrians. What the fuck happened to looking both ways and nkt wearing headphones etc? Pedestrian safety has gone to the wayside and instead we’re going after drivers?
When did these cameras catch the drivers? Was it during rush hour or was it at 3am when there was little traffic on the road in the first place? How much over the limit were these people doing? There’s an awful lot of important data missing here.
And yes, the drivers are absolutely the problem yet we keep lowering the limits instead of pulling the shit drivers with 0 reflex and the reaction time of a potato off the road.
Great opportunity to go inform yourself then :-)
Inform myself of what? The 10 year old crossing the empty street at 3am on a school night? Sure…
If other cars would just fucking do the limit and not take years to get there, there would be far less speeding. I know I’m mostly doing it to make up for lost time from all the dumb fucks I’m stuck behind/beside because they can’t keep the fuck up with traffic
Drive like a Christian Motorist
Hundo, and if the person I let in front of me drives like shit, I’ll hope that there isn’t also an idiot blocking me in so I can get around them.
Aaand there it is. You’re a speeder and therefore a dangerous driver and refuse to take responsibility for the fact that you are making roadways more dangerous for yourself and everyone around you. You don’t see yourself as a bad person, so the fact that people like you could get punished for behaving in a way you think is fine and redeemabke makes you angry. You’re impatient and want to save a few minutes of “lost time” from traffic and believe the solution is to speed rather than leaving a few minutes earlier, advocating for traffic calming measures, fewer cards on the road, more effective roadways, effective public transportation etc. all of which would make it safer and easier for everyone, including yourself, to make it where they need to go on time.
Boy, nothing gets by you eh? I was pretty overt from the get-go that I tend to drive slightly above the limit when it is safe to do so.
As for people who can accelerate and people who speed being the biggest danger on the road, I’d say the people retarding the flow of traffic, the people who expect us all to be psychic and know when they’re about to change lanes without a blinker, and the people turning left on a long yellow light or sneaking in behind on the red are far, far worse.
It’s difficult living in a world of mentally slow people who can’t process for shit, so there’s no sense trying to argue with you here. Just keep driving like a putz and enjoy the fact that while you can’t grasp the concept of a blinker or reaching the limit, cops are aggressively going after people who can reach limits and are able to process things at an above average rate.
It’s so telling that when I say speeding is dangerous, you believe that I don’t also think that not using your blinkers, not leaving the left lane for passing, and running red lights is dangerous. Take responsibility for your actions instead of building a strawman to feel justified in your behaviour.
Nah, there is no strawman in my point. Speeding is not an issue - especially on streets that have gone from 80 down to 60. Of everybody on the road, speeders are the least of my concern, even before I had my license though back then there was also far more bitching about slow walkers, too.
Sorry you don’t have the reaction speed to handle driving a vehicle at a moderate pace. I hope you stick to side streets for your own safety.
Road ways are designed with something like a safety factor where a 50kph road way Is safe up to 80kph. It’s just reduced for those stunned types of us.
Designing a 50 zone to be safe at 80 is a big part of why our roads are dangerous and we need to address mass speeding. On a highway it make sense to give more wiggle room with speed, the same is not true for residential roads or school zones.
Try understanding. The road was already designed to be safe at 80kph. They lower it down to 50kph because of folks such as the ones who brake at the green light because the count down timer for the walk signal hit zero. Or the ones who don’t know where the fuck they are going, panick miss their turn and slam on the fucking brakes in the middle of a 3 lane road instead of pulling a u-turn 100m up the road. Then they try the bulshit of traffic calming shit by retiming the lights so every light in 10km stretch will be red when you get to it. Fucking phenomenal way to prevent irritation.
They can’t understand, much like they can’t process things when driving 80kmh. They are, no doubt, one of the people doing the limit in the inside lane with 0 intention to pass the car beside them and get back into the appropriate lane.
But here they are telling us how everybody else is a problem.