Thousands of children in Gaza have no been admitted to hospitals for malnutrition, but even as they waste away, doctors’ options for treating them have depleted.
I was talking about the population today. Two states with minorities are still possible.
Yeah here’s the big problem with the two state solution both then and now: Zionists don’t fucking want it. They never wanted it. I’ll avoid going on a rant about Zionist bad faith negotiation, but would you say that Zionists have gotten more or less radical since partition? Because Ben Gurion is on record saying “We must expel the Arabs and take their place”. More recently Zionists took the only man with the sanity and spine to attempt to put an end to all this, Yitzhak Rabin, and fucking killed him so they could continue their ethnic cleansing project. The man who took his place and ended negotiations with the PLO is Netanyahu, the so-called king of Israeli politics.
Anyway, since Zionists don’t want peace of any kind, they’ll have to be forced into it, and if they have to be forced to accept peace anyway we might as well advocate for a truly just peace rather than a compromise doomed to fail, hence the one state solution.
Same as you want in Africa.
20% ethnicity Y in a state allocated to ethnicity X is not a viable partition model, neither in Palestine or Africa. If there are ethnicities in Africa where that’s the best partition model that can be done then I’d drop partition there too.
Zionists accepted two states in 1935, 1947, 1948, and offered two state peace deals in 2000 and 2008 (Olmert). All of them were rejected by the Palestinians.
One state would only lead to a civil war and we end up right where we are now, but likely worse.
Zionists accepted two states in 1935, 1947, 1948, and offered two state peace deals in 2000 and 2008 (Olmert).
The plan was celebrated by most Jews in Palestine,[48] with Zionist leaders, in particular David Ben-Gurion, viewing the plan as a tactical step and a stepping stone to future territorial expansion over all of Palestine.
-Wikipedia on the Nakba.
Ben Gurion urged fellow Jews to accept the UN Partition Plan, pointing out that arrangements are never final, ‘not with regard to the regime, not with regard to borders, and not with regard to international agreements’. The idea of partition being a temporary expedient dated back to the Peel Partition proposal of 1937. When the Zionist Congress had rejected partition on the grounds that the Jews had an inalienable right to settle anywhere in Palestine, Ben Gurion had argued in favour of acceptance, 'I see in the realisation of this plan practically the decisive stage in the beginning of full redemption and the most wonderful lever for the gradual conquest of all of Palestine.
-Also Wikipedia.
So like I said, Zionists never wanted two states or intended to stay inside their designated borders.
and offered two state peace deals in 2000 and 2008 (Olmert).
In the 2000 offer Israel wanted to turn Palestine into Bantustans subservient to Israel so… uh… yeah. That was not a good faith offer no matter how you look at it. And about the 2008 offer, here’s BBC on the topic:
At the end of their meeting, Olmert refused to hand over a copy of the map to Mahmoud Abbas unless the Palestinian leader sign it.
Abbas refused, saying that he needed to show his experts the map, to make sure they understood exactly what was being offered.
Olmert says the two agreed to a meeting of map experts the following day.
Weird, because I remember a whole lot of people leaving their land.
Yeah here’s the big problem with the two state solution both then and now: Zionists don’t fucking want it. They never wanted it. I’ll avoid going on a rant about Zionist bad faith negotiation, but would you say that Zionists have gotten more or less radical since partition? Because Ben Gurion is on record saying “We must expel the Arabs and take their place”. More recently Zionists took the only man with the sanity and spine to attempt to put an end to all this, Yitzhak Rabin, and fucking killed him so they could continue their ethnic cleansing project. The man who took his place and ended negotiations with the PLO is Netanyahu, the so-called king of Israeli politics.
Anyway, since Zionists don’t want peace of any kind, they’ll have to be forced into it, and if they have to be forced to accept peace anyway we might as well advocate for a truly just peace rather than a compromise doomed to fail, hence the one state solution.
20% ethnicity Y in a state allocated to ethnicity X is not a viable partition model, neither in Palestine or Africa. If there are ethnicities in Africa where that’s the best partition model that can be done then I’d drop partition there too.
Zionists accepted two states in 1935, 1947, 1948, and offered two state peace deals in 2000 and 2008 (Olmert). All of them were rejected by the Palestinians.
One state would only lead to a civil war and we end up right where we are now, but likely worse.
-Wikipedia on the Nakba.
-Also Wikipedia.
So like I said, Zionists never wanted two states or intended to stay inside their designated borders.
In the 2000 offer Israel wanted to turn Palestine into Bantustans subservient to Israel so… uh… yeah. That was not a good faith offer no matter how you look at it. And about the 2008 offer, here’s BBC on the topic: