You know, DOGE, fascist president and corporations dictating what people can do, institutions being ruined, laws being ignored. Is there any way out of that or is it over? Is the USA done?

  • treadful@lemmy.zipEnglish
    87·
    4 days ago

    I think you need some perspective. The situation is bad and seems like foreshadowing of worse things to come. However, we’re a pretty far distance from states pulling away or civil war breaking out.

    • Da Cap’n@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      10·
      4 days ago

      Um, not so much. California is going to have a vote on state independence on the next ballot. I can see Texas following suit.

      • treadful@lemmy.zipEnglish
        63·
        4 days ago

        And does anyone actually think those have a chance of passing right now?

        There’s always been talk of succession here and there, but we just aren’t at the point of the US actually breaking up.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
          6·
          4 days ago

          I mean I don’t think most people are for state independence now, but the idea is gaining legitimacy. There’s just no reason to stick with a federal government that will take your taxes and then give you nothing.

        • hornywarthogfart@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          21·
          4 days ago

          Yeah we aren’t anywhere close to the point of states breaking out of the union. Some people will call for it, maybe even a lot. But as soon as they realize what is required that shit will stop immediately. California would quite literally need to go to war with the union to gain that independence regardless of what they voted. So not only would they need to actually vote for it but then they’d have to be willing to go to war and kill and die for that separation and their independence.

          As strong as people feel, we aren’t even close to that point. Not to mention it would fail; none of the states currently have any hope of competing against the US military machine. Give us a couple hundred more years to really really deteriorate and siphon all value from the people and land and we may be there.

          • Laurel Raven@lemmy.zipEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            I dunno, the US military machine may not be that impressive for very long the way they’re going

    • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
      31·
      4 days ago

      There’s more to it than that. I’m talking about a dictatorship, where trump flaunts the law, more than he already has.