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    the document says programs affected are “including, but not limited to, financial assistance for foreign aid, nongovernmental organizations, DEI, woke gender ideology, and the green new deal.”

    Dear lord. Forget drinking it, these people drowned in the koolaid.

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      Accelerationists are gonna be so smug when the USA becomes a smoking heap of shit by the end of the year with this pace

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      Conservatives went from understanding how to manipulate public perception of issues and their causes in order to alter the structure of the country however they wanted, to having their chairs filled by those they hoodwinked decades ago

      I hope Nixon and Kissinger are watching this from Hell while screaming

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    people have been saying Milei is Argentina’s Trump but I think we forget that Trump is America’s Milei

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      We probably should be looking closer at Argentina’s fallout to glean what we can actually expect. Starting to feel like Argentina was the beta-test for this similar to Chile with western neoliberal projects.

      Neoliberalism may be going the way of Keynesian economics.

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        With the added fun of … this will cause a global economic depression on par with the Great Depression, as US consumption drives a huge amount of other country’s exports, and US financial capital is so intertwined with everything.

        Thats all gonna go up in smoke, so… contagion!

        Hooray!

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    I’m not trying to scare you, but all of you need to understand that no matter where you live right now, your job/career is literally hanging on whether Elon Musk gets to cut two trillion from the US federal budget or not.

    If Elon gets his way, the US goes into recession. Millions will lose their jobs, and this will spiral to all the other sectors and send shockwaves across the world. Think 2009 GFC - there is not a country that will not be affected by it. Many more will lose their jobs, homes, savings as the economic prospect trends down, especially the export countries.

    Crazy that whether I get to keep my job over the next few years or not is literally going to be decided by what Elon Musk gets to do. If you told me this even a year ago I would have laughed at you so hard.

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      And people still have an undying devotion to this system

      Musk is not smart enough to make some of these decisions on his own, and I mean that very seriously. He has the emotional immaturity of a teenager and repeatedly proves it time and time again which puts everyone in danger (goes without saying).

      To make matters worse, he’s the richest person in the world so there is no one to hold him accountable. Still has too many people thinking he’s Tony stark, inventing cars and rockets himself and believing he’s self-made. It’s hard to believe this is reality sometimes.

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      this will spiral to all the other sectors and send shockwaves across the world. Think 2009 GFC - there is not a country that will not be affected by it.

      As bad as all this is, I’m still getting out the popcorn if Trump goes through with allowing Musk to cut all of that antelope-popcorn

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    I’m not in the US but one of my fav comments over this on another app said well if they’re going to freeze our tax money like this and stop distributing it to social programs and so on, why are we paying our taxes?

    It’s a good point. A widespread tax strike would fuck this administration up.

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      While the dollar hegemony remains, unfortunately the US government can literally just print more money and be fine for a while.

      Granted that’s probably going to implode too if this kind of shit keeps up.

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        I think they’re pissing off enough international heads of state that all it would take is a bunch of the largest to recall their debts and it would sink that strat pretty fucking quick. Tariff wars won’t be kind to the US. I don’t know what they think they have of value in this case. Moviefilms? The tech companies?

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      If you are a worker, income taxes are deducted already, right? You don’t have a choice. And you don’t have the choice to not be paid in Dollars, all the corps only accept dollars.

      And in the US there is a ton of private debt (mortgage, healthcare, student loan debt) all help with demand for Dollars.

      For the Sovereign (US Federal Government), taxes are one way to create demand for Dollars which they make (first) and allow banks to make.

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      Not likely with regards to individuals, but I could see state and local governments withholding tax dollars taken out of public employees’ checks from going to the feds.

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        For sure, regional departments could do it. It would take a lot for individuals to get on board but it has happened before. Also I read from a fairly credible source that the *UAW is already working to organize a general strike for 2028 (wish it was sooner) as a way to push OrangeMeng out of office if it comes to that. I haven’t verified but fuck I hope so.

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      “born: ha ha, died: hee hee”

      That joke should have been made in a movie or a tv show a long time ago. I’m imagining some obscure 1980s zombie movie and two of the leads are in a graveyard.

      "Look! ‘Born: ha ha. Died: hee hee.’ "

      “What?”

      “On the tombstone.”

      “I’m not in the mood for—”

      “Look!”

      He looks. “I’ll be fucking damned.”

      “I don’t think you should have said that in a graveyard.”

      I’ll be fucking damned. It’s gonna be dark soon. We gotta find shelter.” Five minutes of screen time later - he’s killed by a pack of zombies ripping him to shreds.

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        And WaPo, the NYT, etc too. By tomorrow there will any number of horrible “Who’s winning - Trump or the dems?” op-eds or opinion pieces in newspapers, on websites (like MSNBC), Substack articles, etc. It’s like the media showing up after a building is set on fire by an arsonist and asking “Gee, who’s winning? The arsonist?”

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    including, but not limited to, financial assistance for foreign aid, nongovernmental organizations, DEI, woke gender ideology, and the green new deal

    what green new deal?! who the fuck is doing the green new deal right now? “hello please direct me to your green new deal adherence offices”

    • the green new deal is when I go to Home Depot and they have battery powered mowers on the shelves instead of God-fearing, gas powered gas mowers like Briggs & Stratton!

      they still have gas mowers, but, as a red-blooded and wife-breeding Christian man, I should not even have to see these woke electrical gizmos that my stolen taxes paid for.

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    I think this is a mafioso style shakedown. Trump is the don and he’s telling the owner of a notable business in the state, Mr. Dems, that a large portion of Mr. Dems’ profits need to go to him immediately.

    Mr. Dems says “Look, Don Trump, right now I can give you - I don’t know the numbers - half of one percent but—”

    And Trump says “What? Half of one percent? Listen you worthless fuck. You give me half starting right now or I burn it all down. With you and your family in it.”

    And - of course - Mr. Dems pays up.

    -–

    In real life - I can imagine the dems quickly acquiesce “for the good of the country” to stop the widespread panic and to stop the chaos and they give Trump - I dunno - $300 billion for his racist deportation program. And Chuck Schumer puts up an weirdly oddly upbeat tweet that the dems talked Trump down from a half a trillion so everything isn’t a total loss.

    [Edit - I used much better numbers.]

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    When this piece of shit and apartheid clyde aren’t whining about race mixing they’re fucking things up for everyone. And this isn’t even gonna be the worst part. People really voted him twice i-cant Country of over 300 mill and this is the best admin you can come up with i-cant

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    It’s a two page memo that goes into effect tomorrow and it’s causing “widespread panic”.

    In a two-page document, Matthew J. Vaeth, the acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, instructs federal agencies to “temporarily pause all activities related to obligations or disbursement of all Federal financial assistance.” […] The memo goes into effect Tuesday.

    […]

    Donald Kettl, professor emeritus and former dean of the University of Maryland School of Public Policy, said the language in the memo is confusing, making its specific effects unclear. There will be widespread panic, Kettl said, as state and local governments as well as the people most reliant on federal-funded grants scramble to figure out if and when their cash flow will stop.

    Look at this milquetoast shit when trillions are on the line…

    “They say this is only temporary, but no one should believe that,” Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York) said in a statement. “Donald Trump must direct his Administration to reverse course immediately and the taxpayers’ money should be distributed to the people. Congress approved these investments and they are not optional; they are the law.”

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    The White House budget office is ordering a pause to all grants and loans disbursed by the federal government, according to an internal memo sent to agencies Monday, creating significant confusion across Washington.

    In a two-page document, Matthew J. Vaeth, the acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, instructs federal agencies to “temporarily pause all activities related to obligations or disbursement of all Federal financial assistance.” The memo, a copy of which was obtained by The Washington Post, also calls for each agency to perform a “comprehensive analysis” to ensure its grant and loan programs are consistent with President Donald Trump’s executive orders, which aimed to ban federal diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives, and limit clean energy spending, among other measures.

    The memo states its orders should not be “construed” to impact Social Security or Medicare recipients, and also says the federal financial assistance put on hold “does not include assistance provided directly to individuals.”

    But the document says programs affected are “including, but not limited to, financial assistance for foreign aid, nongovernmental organizations, DEI, woke gender ideology, and the green new deal.”

    The order may impact at least tens of billions of dollars in payments, said Brian Riedl, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a center-right think tank.

    The memo also states that of the $10 trillion “that the Federal Government spent [in fiscal year 2024, which ended Sept. 30, 2024], more than $3 trillion was Federal financial assistance, such as grants and loans.” It was not immediately clear where those figures came from; the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says the government spent $6.7 trillion in the 2024 fiscal year.

    A person familiar with the order, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe confidential decisions, confirmed the accuracy of the document and said it applied to all grants. The memo goes into effect Tuesday. The agencies are also required to submit detailed lists of projects suspended under the new order by Feb. 10. Federal agencies must assign “responsibility and oversight” to tracking the federal spending to a senior political appointee, not a career official, the memo states.

    “The funding delays are going to prove very difficult for grantees under the impression the money is coming, and have rent and salary payments dependent upon it,” Riedl said. “It seems like a very big deal.”

    The memo was reported earlier Monday by journalist Marisa Kabas.

    Federal grants support a broad range of recipients and causes. They go to universities for education and research programs, and to nonprofits for health care and studies, among thousands of other purposes.

    “They’re taking a broad view of what they mean within this order, and I think that has to mean that it covers everything else other than the things that go to individuals,” said Bobby Kogan, a federal budget expert at the left-leaning Center for American Progress.

    Several congressional Democratic aides, speaking on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations, said they were bewildered by the memo and trying to understand its implications for the federal government.

    “They say this is only temporary, but no one should believe that,” Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-New York) said in a statement. “Donald Trump must direct his Administration to reverse course immediately and the taxpayers’ money should be distributed to the people. Congress approved these investments and they are not optional; they are the law.”

    The order’s legality may be contested, but the president is generally allowed under the law to defer spending for a period of time, according to budget experts. To comply, though, Trump must make clear though which budget accounts are frozen, Kogan said, and the budget office’s order may not provided sufficient grounds under the law to pause the funding.

    Donald Kettl, professor emeritus and former dean of the University of Maryland School of Public Policy, said the language in the memo is confusing, making its specific effects unclear. There will be widespread panic, Kettl said, as state and local governments as well as the people most reliant on federal-funded grants scramble to figure out if and when their cash flow will stop.

    “In two pages, we’ve got what amounts to 60 years of tradition and policies that are thrown up in the air,” said Kettl, who has consulted for multiple government agencies. “For those suffering most, the uncertainty will be immense.”

    G. William Hoagland, senior vice president at the Bipartisan Policy Center, said the administration should be legally able to pause the money temporarily but would need to submit a formal request to Congress to do so beyond a set window.

    Still, Hoagland and other budget experts have expressed concern about Trump’s promises to wrest spending control away from Congress. Hoagland said he fears the deferral could be a precursor to a broader assertion of executive spending power.

    “I worry this is an effort to hold back on not implementing the law of the land as it relates to the budget process,” Hoagland said. “And in terms of the impact, it could be huge.”

    The Trump administration has also acted rapidly to freeze most public communications by federal health agencies, as well as temporarily pausing foreign aid.

    Read the full memo below. If you can’t see it, click here.

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        Trump smiles and yells “THERE IS NO GREEN NEW DEAL. THAT HASN’T PASSED SO NO GREEN NEW DEAL.” For some reason he sounds like a pirate for a second - “ARGGGGHH.” - then he goes back to normal and says “NO GREEN NEW DEAL. NONE. THAT MONEY IS FOR DEPORT PROGRAM AND GREENLAND WAR…”

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          This is not Citations Needed but rather Citation Needed, a newsletter by someone named Molly White. Two different things. There is also another podcast, unrelated to either of these, called Citation Needed. It’s a popular name.

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            The more I think about it - the more it’s staggering that nobody at WaPo thought to examine the PDF for any clue possible. Looking for metadata is the most basic possible. Why didn’t a single person at WaPo think of that? It’s easy to overlook stuff. I do so more than the average person. But who has opposable thumbs and can operate a phone and use email? Me! If I was a reporter and I had a PDF (or any technical issue) - I’d ask somebody I know (or use a throwaway account at Reddit) to remind me of all the basic things I was overlooking.

            Sad.

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              Mainstream journos suck. They’re getting corpobashed and competing with chatbots now so that’s part of why they don’t have their wits about them I guess. The good ones have all gone indie or reader-supported over the past half decade. I only started “doing” social media of any kind right around lockdowns and found the mElon site before he bought it and ended up following a ton of bleeding edge writers blasting stories realtime. Most of them have migrated to bluesky which is good. I wish more of them had given Mastodon a chance tho.

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        They didn’t scrub the fucking meta data off the PDFs before sending them out.

        In my mind’s eye I saw each member of Trump’s inner circle of top guys finding a lightsaber. And each of them kills themselves a slightly different way by slicing off large chunks of their bodies when they turn them on. I wanted to make a “The Force” joke but the wacky part of my brain took control and my joke went in a different direction.