They’re propagandists. Journalism and propaganda are intrinsically tied, and western journalists are responsible for poisoning the minds of entire populations.
“western journalists are responsible for poisoning the minds of entire populations.” While I generally agree with you it’s awfully hexbear of you to single out “western” instead of generally all.
I’m sure the “journalists” in Russia are doing just as much to poison the minds of their citizens.
Edit: Didn’t even realize this is in the Hexbear community lol, I shouldn’t of spoken out of turn I’m sorry. Please don’t shun me
It’s really convenient to selectively discard the idea of American Exceptionalism when it comes time to talk about the most money ever, by any civilization in history, spent on propagandizing their own people
The thing you don’t incorporate into your analysis is the fact that there’s one giant capitalism that exists in the world and it has centered itself in the American state. You never actually compare apple to apple, let alone acknowledge oranges.
Who do you think backed the Nazi coup in 2014? It was the Americans, and the fascists immediately began ethnic cleansing and started a civil war by attacking their own citizens.
Russia is intervening in this civil war started by fascists and imperialists to finally end it. You have a lot to learn about this conflict
Edit: you were the user a couple weeks ago who thought Ukraine was winning and Russia was on the verge of collapse lmao. This person knows nothing about the conflict except what CNN tells them
If we can acknowledge that the west is propagandised, then we gotta be able to question narratives like the one you just presented. I don’t know the specific event you’re speaking of, so I can’t go into that, but I’d recommend you watch this short video to get an idea of where most hexbear users are coming from. It’s not perfect, nothing ever is, but it does good at laying some groundwork. Its biggest issue is taking Bidens quote about nato expansion out of context, but I don’t find that damning, since it’s trying to illustrate NATO encroachment. Wether or not Biden recognised the issue with that or not isn’t super relevant when the danger is clear either way. The video would have worked just as well without his quote, it just helps make it relatable to american liberals.
I guess you can say that while all journalists are propagandists, they are much more succesful propagandists in the west. Probably because people are far less sceptical of the news here. There’s that old joke about a KGB agent and a CIA agent having a chat in a bar.
“I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.
“Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”
The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”
Of course, I always find talking to hexbear users interesting. I appreciate those of you who take the time to try and help me (and others) understand your perspective. The memeing and clowning on outsiders is usually pretty amusing from my point of view as well.
That’s a very nice and healthy attitude to have. I’m really happy to hear it.
The memeing and clowning comes from a relatively reasonable place too tbh. It’s incredible how many people will pop into hexbear, say something they don’t know anything about, get defensive when people engage like how I engage with you and then call all of us bots or cry about civility when people start treating them how they’re treating people. I’ve seen the term “wrecker” used to describe the behaviour. I think there’s been a lot of wreckers, so people are just a bit agressive when they perceive people acting in bad faith. That means well-meaning people end up catching strays, which is really sad.
I came here from another comm some time ago and I had gotten the hexbear treatment too. Took a while to realise why I’d gotten it.
They’re propagandists. Journalism and propaganda are intrinsically tied, and western journalists are responsible for poisoning the minds of entire populations.
Absolutely. Did you see CNN doing the least convincing Syrian prisoner rescue ever the other day?
“western journalists are responsible for poisoning the minds of entire populations.” While I generally agree with you it’s awfully hexbear of you to single out “western” instead of generally all.
I’m sure the “journalists” in Russia are doing just as much to poison the minds of their citizens.
Edit: Didn’t even realize this is in the Hexbear community lol, I shouldn’t of spoken out of turn I’m sorry. Please don’t shun me
It’s really convenient to selectively discard the idea of American Exceptionalism when it comes time to talk about the most money ever, by any civilization in history, spent on propagandizing their own people
The thing you don’t incorporate into your analysis is the fact that there’s one giant capitalism that exists in the world and it has centered itself in the American state. You never actually compare apple to apple, let alone acknowledge oranges.
Interesting perspective that helped me view this a bit differently, thanks for sharing
Russian journalists are generally not manufacturing consent for imperialist warmongering like western journalists so they are not the same
I bet this is a touchy topic in this channel but isn’t that exactly what Russian journalists are doing with Ukraine?
Just like the west as well.
The Russian war in Ukraine is anti-imperialist, they are destroying a forward NATO outpost and fascist coup government
Ahhhhha, yes I see. I didn’t realize NATO stationed their troops in popular shopping malls far from the front.
Keep up the good work spreading the truth Z Poster lol
Who do you think backed the Nazi coup in 2014? It was the Americans, and the fascists immediately began ethnic cleansing and started a civil war by attacking their own citizens.
Russia is intervening in this civil war started by fascists and imperialists to finally end it. You have a lot to learn about this conflict
Edit: you were the user a couple weeks ago who thought Ukraine was winning and Russia was on the verge of collapse lmao. This person knows nothing about the conflict except what CNN tells them
If we can acknowledge that the west is propagandised, then we gotta be able to question narratives like the one you just presented. I don’t know the specific event you’re speaking of, so I can’t go into that, but I’d recommend you watch this short video to get an idea of where most hexbear users are coming from. It’s not perfect, nothing ever is, but it does good at laying some groundwork. Its biggest issue is taking Bidens quote about nato expansion out of context, but I don’t find that damning, since it’s trying to illustrate NATO encroachment. Wether or not Biden recognised the issue with that or not isn’t super relevant when the danger is clear either way. The video would have worked just as well without his quote, it just helps make it relatable to american liberals.
I’ll give the video a watch when I get home from work, thanks for taking the time to share your perspective.
No problem, thanks for being open minded and humble
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I guess you can say that while all journalists are propagandists, they are much more succesful propagandists in the west. Probably because people are far less sceptical of the news here. There’s that old joke about a KGB agent and a CIA agent having a chat in a bar.
“I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.
“Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”
The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”
Another good perspective that got the point across to me, thanks for sharing
No problem, thanks for being so nice despite getting snarked at by a bunch of people
Of course, I always find talking to hexbear users interesting. I appreciate those of you who take the time to try and help me (and others) understand your perspective. The memeing and clowning on outsiders is usually pretty amusing from my point of view as well.
That’s a very nice and healthy attitude to have. I’m really happy to hear it.
The memeing and clowning comes from a relatively reasonable place too tbh. It’s incredible how many people will pop into hexbear, say something they don’t know anything about, get defensive when people engage like how I engage with you and then call all of us bots or cry about civility when people start treating them how they’re treating people. I’ve seen the term “wrecker” used to describe the behaviour. I think there’s been a lot of wreckers, so people are just a bit agressive when they perceive people acting in bad faith. That means well-meaning people end up catching strays, which is really sad.
I came here from another comm some time ago and I had gotten the hexbear treatment too. Took a while to realise why I’d gotten it.
You won’t be shunned. You must accept your ppb though
I’m not sure what ppb is but I will take the pic of possibly a pig shitting on its own balls as a sign of good luck, thank you
Pig poop balls = ppb
Thank you, I was very curious
Yeah, half of Russian journalists are doing propaganda for Putin, the other half for USA and all of the for capitalism.
emphasis mine. no investigation, no right to speak. have some more ppb
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hexbear users are so diverse in their responses, I rate yours poorly of the ones I’ve recieved so far, but thanks for the double good luck