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They are not even trying to overturn the decision. The far right has consistently walked back on every social mesure they had in the past 2 weeks to the surprise of noone who knows what right means.

Add fishing to that.

Pignorant is another investigation into UK gas chambers for pigs that’s available on Prime video btw.

Let’s abolish slaughterhouses.

Israel was never the Nazis’ victim, Jewish people were. Israel is not equal to Jewish people and this is doing a huge disservice to all the Jewish people around the world fighting against this colonial state.

Yeah the water where I live is at 36+ °f making it a not insignifiant part of my daily calcium

In my EU country, most do contain calcium, as well as vitamin D and sometimes B12 and iode .

Although I have to say I get almost if not all of my calcium from water, vegetables and tofu as I rarely drink any plant based milk.

Actually most leather seems to be coated in plastic as well.

I actually just watched a nice video on vegan leather vs animal leather and comparing the ecological impact (as well as other factors)

https://youtu.be/x-UGgf7i0qM

Even funnier, is that the economic driving force of the soy industry is soybean meal for animal feeds compared to soybean oil.

Based on the productivities of soybean oil and soybean meal, revenues from soybean oil and soybean meal are ~23% and ~77% respectively. Though the oil expelling process is used to produce oil, the soybean meal is actually the driving force for the whole production system.

According to https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0472/9/5/87

It’s a screenshot of a screenshot. Someone posted on the subreddit mildlyinteresting about olive oil and egg. Then someone else screenshotted that and posted it on vegancirclejerk lamenting about eggs.

Then it got acreenshotted and posted here.

So yes olive oil is vegan and no that was not the claim made by the person but I agree that it’s confusing

I guess words can’t be used in different context, especially when the plant-based alternatives are drop-in replacement for animal milks and the term has been used for hundreds of year to describe both plant-based milky substances and animal secretions.

Source: https://english.stackexchange.com/a/478323

Hey thanks for the precision. The frustration was not directed at you directly, moreso at the argument I thought you were making, I apologize for that. I have just heard this fallacious argument so many time in real life used seriously that I react strongly to it.

It clearly has nothing to do with the dairy lobby pushing hard everywhere to prevent people from switching to ecologically and humanely better alternative because they don’t want to lose the fat subsidies they get from the government.

They try to push these legislations under the guise that it could induce the consumer in error, my ass.

Let’s blame fun cartoons instead.

Let’s not forget the cost with their lives the cows have to bear for us to get milk.

Forcefully impregnated, their babies taken away to be slaughtered as veal or to become milk cows. And all that for a fraction of their lifespan only to be slaughtered when their milk production starts to decline…

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02042021/meat-dairy-lobby-climate-action/

At least sometimes there is a bit of push back: https://www.just-food.com/news/eu-rejects-dairy-lobby-proposals-to-restrict-plant-based-alternatives/

I’ve posted another answer to OP but I feel like yours expresses my position much better than I could. Thanks for that!

On my end I’m what you’d call a sentientist. My moral criteria is based around sentience ( yes sentience as almost anything is not an on off switch but more of a gradient). I think most people who call themselves vegan and fight for animal rights (as opposed to welfarism) adhere to the sentientism philosophical argument. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiocentrism )

Many bivalves are probably not sentient ( think sponges) and I don’t really care what happens to them like I don’t care what happens to a rock. As they don’t have a subjective experience nobody is there to be harmed.

However, insects are definitely believed to be sentient which is why I wont kill them when not needed. This means a mosquito “attacking” me will get slapped just as I would kill a tiger trying to eat me, but I won’t eat insects as eating plants easily replaces it and plants are not sentient (even if they were, it’s always better to eat them directly rather than feed them to animals and then eat them)

For example with your classification how would you deal with animals (human or nom-humans) with impairments that would put them at the level lower than their respective species? If your answer is to keep them in the same group as their species it’s basically an indirect specist argument. If you agree to lower them in another category then this open the way to things that can look pretty disturbing to me. For example keeping certain humans in zoo.

Basically I believe every sentient beings should be afforded basic rights like the right not to be killed.

P.S. : I would strongly invite you to look at footage of how insects are raised when used for example as food source for humans and you’ll see that it differs enormously to what their natural environment would look like.

This isn’t true anymore in Switzerland. Since January 2023 you just go to your civil office state you want to change your gender and pay the administrative fee and you’re good.

You don’t even need a medical diagnostic.

Yeah we totally don’t do anything over here (and the rest of the world), except for pigs, cows , chicken and many more non-human animals.

Aww that’s unlucky. I mostly listen to popular sf/fantasy books and always found them.

https://libro.fm is a an interesting alternative to audible if you can pay.

No DRM and if your local bookshop registered themselves a percentage of what you buy is paid to them.

If you truly think that rescuing a dog is the same as killing animals for taste and that by doing this you’re not the one forcing your morals on other sentient beings I guess it’s pointless to continue the discussion.

It would depend on the animal and the relationship between their guardian and the animal.

I would not qualify someone having a rescue dog that the dog would be a slave. It’s more akin to having a child that you care for. In the same way I would not count a mentally disabled adult living with their parents a slave.

My current view on pets is that we should stop breeding cats and dogs just to keep them as pets especially seeing the horrendous conditions in which they are bred and the crazy things we select for while breeding to make them look cute while disregarding their well being (e.g. genetic disease that pure race cats or dogs have )

I however also understand that some animals are completely domesticated and cannot just be left alone. Taking care of them is fine for me.

Guardianship might be a good solutions for these cases.