Uhh? I don’t agree with them that it’s that big of a deal but he did a lot more than being an idiot, he tried (and almost succeeded) to kill a petition that many people dedicated months of their life to because he’s a narcissist who refuses to change his opinion, and he would very clearly do it again if given the chance. I would say pitchforks are justified.
Aren’t airplane flights and cars and just waste in general bigger contributors? I’m all for more people going vegan but I remember a carbon footprint analysis saying some of the worst contributors were planes cars waste and then food. Having a kid was the biggest contributor but that’s a bit obvious.
Not false at all but a big part imo is also learned, it’s like if I have 10 problems, 5 of which are totally my fault, and the only one talking about the other 5 says “ALL your problems are not your fault.”
It’s like one person actually fully reflected their experiences back to them, but then peddled a ton of lies along with it.
I think any vegan who is at least somewhat sane would say squishing an ant is not the same as killing a cow, because one is clearly more sentient and capable of experiencing suffering than the other. Obviously you don’t want to do either of them, and yes overpopulation and food waste causes us to kill enormous amounts of insects and wildlife. But I also don’t advocate for increasing the human population and try to waste absolutely 0 food because I know the impact it has. Buying food locally from non-factory farms is also much better, vegan or not.
It’s also true that animals consume and require MUCH more resources than just eating the plants ourselves, so even under that framing we are still doing significantly more harm because now we have to grow extra food, have space for these animals, and deal with the extra emissions from feeding/giving water/transport.
I absolutely can’t support myself nor anyone else with some backyard gardening, that’s definitely true. But with 2 people doing it in our leisure time, we reduced how often we have to buy any foods by about 40% by having ~8 fruit trees, 10 raised beds, and a freezer. Obviously this isn’t 0 harm because we do need a fence and sometimes have to trap and release some animals, but it is possible and not infeasable to feed a neighborhood by gardening like this, and it’s been done in many neighborhoods already.
You definitely can not exist without causing harm, and meat is not the ONLY negative thing to reduce, it’s just the most obvious and requires the least amount of legislature to actually reduce the harm from it. If we had a much smaller amount of cows that only ate the waste, that were humanely slaughtered, I think most vegans still be sad about it but not be nearly as upset, and meat would be a special thing rather than a staple.
I’m pretty sure a lot of people legitimately do not see fish as more than objects, and I mean they never fully made the connection not that they do it intentionally.
I agree! so we should try to get locally grown food without pesticides and then people can stop coping. Somehow my family manages to grow food without it and if there’s a bug we just dust it off into the grass. People who freak out over a little bug or fruit that’s not totally perfect are actually part of the problem.
It’s pure cope to say “I can’t avoid causing suffering so me making a deliberate choice to cause MORE suffering to animals that are the same intelligence as my dog is actually fine.”
I just figure if I do have kids, there are very few things that will be better than I have now. It’s not really fear just I don’t want my kids to live through the worst weather/shortages/pollution ever + companies being better than ever at trying to manipulate people and suck their life away.
As a legitimate question what do I do if someone else is like this? Being around that makes me feel sad because I don’t feel trusted and like they think I’m dangerous, I don’t want to try and force it or anything, and fully understand why they are that way, it’s just I really don’t like feeling like “you are dangerous.”
Unless you’re generating actual random noise with an AI image generator, it’s almost like buying a fence’s stolen goods, since it is mainly just copying and merging rather than creating. It’s the same thing as piracy, if you do it and then support the crestor no one should mind, but the creator for AI art is everyone it stole from. If I pay for the generation it’s also saying to them “please steal more artwork, it is profitable.”
The bigger issue is someone who might have commissioned an artist instead uses an AI version of their art because it’s close enough to the exact style they wanted, so now their artwork was stolen, and the AIs only source for actual good art is less likely to be in the art business. The photographer or artist whose art they would’ve used or gotten flak for not sourcing is still stolen in the case of AI generation, but now it’s stolen from 200 people so there’s no obvious thing to point to besides maybe a style or a palette. If you tell it to replicate an artist’s style, it’s very obvious that it is recreating parte of images it stole, it just becomes less obvious which parts are stolen as you change the prompt.
I think even if it’s not one of these situations, being approached is uncomfortable unless you are interested in the person. People are way more isolated now and less socially aware, which means half the people who do approach will not understand when the other person isn’t interested, and end up making it a bad interaction for both people rather than just a short uncomfortable one.
Being isolated also makes people act stupid, which makes them ask out their server cashier etc even if they know they shouldn’t. They just need someone to be with, and they see a positive interaction and go for it. It’s like someone who’s starving stealing a lot of your food, it’s still their “fault” but it’s not really surprising they would do that.
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Most people I’ve met like that seem to either say “I don’t want to think about it so I’m not going to” or “yeah I probably should…” Most actual change I’ve gotten is just saying “if going vegan is too much, just try eating a little less meat, and try to avoid beef and pork” since that’s an easy path forward
Hey I’m in pretty much the same boat so here’s hoping for both of us 🙏 sometimes you just gotta pick a day and go do it I guess :<
I actually met some pretty cool people in a language class I took after college, don’t know if there are any near you but class environments are generally pretty low stress.
Ah I gotcha that’s a bit rough lol, maybe if you are able to find some cool people, it’ll get you used to it so you’ll be able to talk more easily with the boss-not-boss xp
🙏 thank you for making this comment so I didn’t have to.
Any groups or anything near where you are? Usually people make clubs or anything, even if it’s something you hate you’ll usually find it fun if there are good people there. Also just going to a park (if there is one) and reading, you can find some cool people who want to chat.
As for dating coworkers, you know your situation better than me, but most people won’t care that much if you just say hey this coffee shop is pretty good if you want to go, gives them an easy out (I’m busy) and doesn’t put too much out there.
Not the one you responded to but it’s a couple things, generally just lungs feeling inflamed, difficulty taking a full breath, way more sensitive to air quality / air temperature, and a bit of autonomic (I have to use a cpap to fall asleep now because sometimes I just stop breathing as I’m falling asleep)
Pretty interesting question sorry all the redditors are downvoting this and giving you fantasy land looks don’t matter replies. A couple comments nailed it, if they’re out of your league then improve yourself until you’re in their league, or lower your standards. Looks are just one aspect of attractiveness, being an interesting/funny/enjoyable person to be around has a huge impact. Just bring something else to the table to bridge that gap.
If you don’t want to do that and don’t want to lower your standards, you can’t really expect them to go for you. Just have to put yourself in places where maybe an opportunity comes to you or you happen to click with someone ¯\(ツ)/¯
I mean while most of this is true, saying looks aren’t important to long term happiness is just not the reality we live in. Living life as someone that people don’t like looking at grinds you down, ask anyone who is/was overweight.
You can do a lot to improve it, by wearing nice clothes being healthy etc, and you can make up for it by being the funniest one in the group, being the most interesting etc, but you’re also asking this of people who will likely have the hardest time dealing with strangers. I experienced a massive difference in how people treated me after I started going to the gym, just a lot more people smiling at me and treating me well when I hadn’t said a single word.
When the world is friendly to you when you do nothing, it’s a lot easier to be confident and funny and happy, and vice versa. I’m not saying to be doomer “there’s nothing you can do,” but just don’t ignore people when they tell you it DOES impact their lives negatively, even in the long term. Not trying to be negative it’s just frustrating when people take it from “this is not what’s holding you back from being with good people” (true) to “this has barely any effect” (false)
You know them better than I do but this is probably something I would’ve done when I was younger to be like “look I’m giving an unexpected answer!” and then as it plays out be like “oh god I ruined the conversation.” If that’s the case they will never do it again and feel unbelievably cringe lol.