List of sources quoted in this list of "push back:

• A group called “Republicans against Trump” which seems to just be this twitter account with a buymeacoffee link which posted “Republicans could choose this man to represent them, instead they preferred a corrupt racist buffoon with no morals. The party deserves a humiliating defeat in 2020.” In May 2020, making me suspect they’re not actually Republican or possibly a group at all.
• “A Republican accountability group called American Bridge 21st Century” which is described on Wikipedia as “a liberal American Super PAC that supports Democratic candidates and opposes Republican candidates.”.
• The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations
• A “popular liberal commentator”
• A Democratic Representative
• The White House political director

So if you were hoping for actual consequences from his base or even just someone new and noteworthy criticizing him, this is not the article for you. I’m glad the Trade Unions are going to spread the word though, that will be a good thing.

Guy

Not cool, please don’t.

you stated that we don’t need to have ventilators in closed rooms

When you’re alone, in your own apartment, with a closed door, yeah. That’s why lockdowns were effective at preventing transmission. I also said ventilation was necessary when in rooms with other people, especially when you can’t distance.

I have better things to do than listen to you pretend that you didn’t say something that’s factually incorrect.

I corrected myself to be more specific when I realised I hadn’t been clear enough, and I backed up the specifics with science. I’m sorry that you feel that isn’t sufficient. Feel free to do the things, I’m out.

I’m upset that you’re ignoring the science, even the science you provided. The comments are whatever, which is why I suggested reconsidering the definitions of the terms for future actions instead of reinstating the comments.

Water droplets, or, if you prefer, respiratory droplets, or even aerosols, is how COVID travels through the air and settles on objects. That’s what the link you gave me explicitly says, and it is what I said. It does not waft around without that medium, to suggest it does is factually incorrect and not backed by any science.

From the link you gave me, emphasis mine:

First, larger respiratory droplets that rapidly settle onto surfaces, typically within 1–2 meters of the source, are amenable to hand hygiene, social distancing, and face masks. Second, albeit with more limited direct evidence, is aerosolization and spread of smaller respiratory droplets, or droplet nuclei, primarily <0.5 micrometers in final size, capable of staying suspended in air for hours and requiring filtering or ventilation for interdiction (2–4).

This is the same thing as what I said. Complete with caveat that you need to mask, wash your hands and not touch stuff. I get being cautious but… you’ve removed a comment which said the same thing as your correction, including choice of word.

Annex C: Respiratory droplets from Atkinson J, Chartier Y, Pessoa-Silva CL, et al., editors. Geneva: World Health Organization; 2009.

Additionally, the definition of an aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in air or another gas.

I’m fine with leaving the comments gone, but in the interests of good intentions and being mostly right, I think it’s worth reconsidering the aerosol/droplet reasoning for future mod actions.

Removed by mod

Still debated, probably not a significant vector, but definitely possible: Lin, N., Zhang, B., Shi, R. et al. Decay pattern of SARS-CoV-2 RNA surface contamination in real residences. Sci Rep 14, 6190 (2024).

Key quote from conclusion:

The environmental contamination of object surfaces by SARS-CoV-2 RNA in residences of COVID-19 patients is low, but cross-contamination caused by water taps and washing basins may have hidden transmission risks. Generally, fomite transmission played a limited role in COVID-19 spread. Even the residence was contaminated by SARS-CoV-2, it was reduced by 90% three days after the patient left.

Edited to add: I mention it mostly because where I live is a high-traffic part of the building with people constantly using the elevators and opening doors. That’s why I’m still careful about it. If I lived in a lower density place I probably wouldn’t go as hard on the “no touchy” thing.

Removed by mod

Removed by mod