Pretty cool, thanks for creating! I joined!

I’m saying they both suck, if you want to argue that China is whipped cream on shit, I concede the point.

Looks like we’re accepting The Guardian as a source:

China set to miss climate targets by 2025 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/feb/22/growth-in-co2-emissions-leaves-china-likely-to-miss-climate-targets

Here’s China giving the death penalty to a pro-democracy blogger:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/05/australian-academic-yang-hengjun-given-suspended-death-sentence-by-chinese-court-writer-wong

A country who refuses to reveal how many people the execute but is estimated thousands per year per Amnesty International, a organization you assert to be biased with absolutely no proof whatsoever. If that number is false, why wouldn’t China release the numbers?

Look, I’m not here just to pick on China, western governments suck too, especially the US. And China has done some good things to get more people out of poverty, and I applaud that. But to hold up China as a paragon of virtue, given their history of censorship, brutality, and lack of transparency seems particularly heinous to me.

It’s Amnesty International, whatchu got besides a statement from the Chinese Minister of some shit?

I know, details details

The government continued to stifle criticism of its policies and actions and discussion of topics considered sensitive through increasingly pervasive online censorship. Government critics, human rights defenders, pro-democracy activists and religious leaders and practitioners were among those subjected to arbitrary arrest and detention. Systematic repression of ethnic minorities in Xinjiang and Tibet continued. Authorities attempted to prevent the publication of an OHCHR report documenting potential crimes against humanity and other international crimes in Xinjiang… Despite some positive policy commitments, including to increased use of renewables, China’s CO2 reduction targets were rated as “highly insufficient” and coal production increased.

China remained the world’s leading executioner, although the government continued to classify statistics for executions and death sentences as “state secrets”. The death penalty remained applicable for 46 offences, including non-lethal offences that do not meet the threshold of the “most serious crimes” under international law and standards.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/east-asia/china/report-china/