Israelis and Palestinians can’t coexist peacefully while Israel exists in its current state, as an ethnostate focused on settler colonialism. That’s like saying normal people want black and whites to get along and also apartheid South Africa should still exist. They can’t at the same time, it’s fundamentally impossible. Once again, tearing down Israel as it exists doesn’t mean hurting any of the people in it (unlike what Israel is doing to the Palestinians). States are just political constructs. You could easily create a new state in that area making up Palestine and Israel called Palestine II: Electric Boogaloo with a new Constitution not based on religion and equal protection under the law, and it would be purely an improvement for everyone who lives there, and yet you’re saying that’s a bad thing?

Also, Marxism isn’t a failed political ideology. There’s plenty of states based off it that exist today. Also, capitalism has killed way more than tens of millions of people if you want to base it off every death even slightly in the orbit of a country like that (which is what those huge, ballooned figures usually do). Hell, it’s caused the destabilizing of almost every country in the global south, so I’d say it’s got an even worse track record of “failed states”. It’s only held up through imperialism, wars, and coups. For every bad thing you point at one of those countries, an equally bad event can be pointed at a capitalist country, too. Also, it’s also still a good framework for analyzing domestic policies and events as well, especially with all the enshittification happening. It’s evolved, like any science, but still extremely predictive.

That person you replied to has been straight up lying in every post his thread. They come off as extremely America exceptionalism propagandized to me lol.

Wasn’t it the SPD that appointed Hitler Chancellor? Sounds like in hindsight, they were right.

Nah, lying is propaganda. You are making shit up. They don’t believe in a genocide against Israel or Ukraine.

Plenty of Jewish people can tell apart attacks on the Israel government are not attacks on Jewish people.

Imagine defending capitalism and Israel with what’s been in the news lately. Boomer mentality.

I agree. It was a dumb thing for him to even try in the first place, but it’s hard to blame some kid who was a teenager during the pandemic. Still, considering the case most likely to get Trump in jail was just dismissed I wouldn’t hold your breath for this country’s justice system.

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Ah. Then looks like it either really was that close or it’s staged.

That’s the question, isn’t it? He’s old so it’s hard to tell. This is coming out so fast.

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He could remove aid but I doubt he could convince Congress and the American people to help Russia. Plus, his whole pro-Russia thing with respect to the war has been posed as an isolation thing. Maybe I’m wrong, though. He’s not afraid to be a hypocrite. A Trump candidacy is depressing and I’ve been trying not to dwell on the possibility of it tbh.

That’s a huge simplification of what that means. But if you’re going to deny the long history of NATO being an extension of American power and a way to legitimize their military conflicts around the world from Libya to Iraq, then there isn’t really anywhere to go next in this conversation.

Okay, that’s quite the straw man, but now I get your confusion, because you’re making up arguments you think I’m making. I never said “everybody evil because puppets of US”.

I made a single sentence criticizing NATO (because often America is bad believe it or not and they’re the main superpower behind it). Everything else you’re assuming or making up. People can believe other non-US countries, including Russia or China or other Western countries, can be bad, can support Ukraine in their war against Russia, and still think that NATO is an arm of US imperialism. Some people are capable of holding these multiple non-conflicting thoughts in their head at the same time. It’s not whataboutism, because it’s related to NATO the whole topic of this thread, it’s just adding to the conversation and exploring the nuance of it all. But I forgot that NATO and the US can do no wrong and is a perfect angel at all times, so that’s my fault for saying anything. Would you feel better if I said Western imperialism so it wasn’t so specific to the US, though?

I guess I don’t see how you would tell who is a tankie unless they started bringing up Russia or something. Because otherwise, if you’re just guessing because they’re criticizing Biden, it’s a pretty poor assumption.

It strikes me as saying, “Oh, here come all the antisemites” in a thread about Palestine. Like, sure, it might attract some, but until it does, you’re then prepping people to accept any criticism of Israel is antisemitism. Not sure if I can word what my issue is exactly, but I guess, it kind of comes off as purposefully shit-stirring to me lol.

Especially since previously, people would say this topic would attract tankies because any criticism of Biden would get people accused of being a tankie (I’d be accused of being a Russian shill for that even though I very much so don’t like Russia or their war, and I very much wanted a better candidate who could beat Trump). But now that this discourse has moved into the mainstream, it’s obvious that it was denial by everyone else before.

It wasn’t a good question nor was it asked in good faith. I answered what I could with some context. It’s like asking if we know the world would have no wars after we got rid of the Nazis and all the evil in the world would disappear. Well, no, obviously not, but that it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t improve things.

It would definitely weaken a ton although I doubt it would immediately dissolve, although its power is heavily based on our leadership and military and anyone who doesn’t see that is pretty naive. Hopefully Europe would help Ukraine enough to make up for us having Trump and probably not helping them anymore, though.

Wtf is a tankie in this case and how would this article attract them? Someone who doesn’t like Biden? Because there are tons of leftist reasons to not like Biden and it’s good to know them. Avoiding criticism of their dear leader and staying in echo chambers is how liberals wound up in this current predicament.

NATO is an arm of American imperialism so it’s relevant to the article and conversation at hand.

Thanks!