I just might create a forum for general electronic repair ranging from generic OS virus cleaning to hard repairs like micro soldering and everything inbetween.

Hell yea

I hope you are joking?

If that ever happens I’ll send you money for a beer.

You can get a complete answer to this with a simple question from AI services. Otherwise you’re the one wading through esoteric nerd posts and ads on five different forums for probably about 5-10 minutes.

You cannot trust the information AI gives you because the chance of it being inaccurate is high even for basic questions.

Most of them now list references along with their answers and if they didn’t, you can request them to check the answers. You can then have a followup question

If I have to go around the places it linked and check the data myself because I’m so use to the AI lying to me whats the difference from just manually looking up the answer?

As for genAI, it also has its legitimate uses for generating placeholders, templates, and the scaffolding for your or others’ art.

Is that worth all the power usage? Can you not create your own art template like people have been doing for decades?

Even more reason to say those words.

In this scenario the child is learning based off real updated information directly from the teacher.

When an AI is training it’ll take any information even inaccurate or outdated information and it doesn’t know that after it’s done training it’ll spit that outdated inaccurate information back at you.

See the differences?

When the child is at his school concert yes he is terrible but the people who went to that concert went there willingly most likely knowing it’s going to suck because it’s a school that teaches kids to play guitar and the kid doesn’t put strain on the power grid when he does it.

When I Google something I unwillingly am shown a stupid AI generated prompt with inaccurate information which does put strain on the power grid.

And it can be worse; let’s say your music school was sponsored by Coca-Cola, and now all their advertisements for the following few years will include you, or guitar players just like you, in their ads. Everyone has to listen to it at least once a day who watches TV, and their favorite channel has those ads. They are here for some Family Guy, but still have to listen to some kids struggling on their guitars for 40 seconds just to be reminded that Coca-Cola is a thing.

But what they don’t know is that since you continued to play the guitar, go to lessons, maybe study some solfege, practice, and play in concerts and competitions, after some time, you could become a decent guitarist. Not necessarily the best, but a decent one. Maybe you could base a career on playing the guitar. Who knows?

When you say this I assume you are talking about AI generated slop?

The kid got better with time and skill and everyone can look at that and be impressed because they can’t easily do it.

When I see AI slop no matter how it looks I don’t care if it’s 1:1 to real life a human didn’t make that.

I don’t want to watch a movie from an AI because it didn’t take skill or time to create it and anyone can make a similar copy.

Whenever I see an animated music video it makes me want to cry because there was real thoughts, emotions, time and skill put into the work and the result is beautiful.

Now lets say an AI generated a song and an animated music video for it would it feel the same? Would you still care since you can make a basically identical result in a few minutes?

I’m into electronics repair and I’m creating a tips and trick list for most of the electronics that come into repair shops based off real information.

I plan to include everything I can for every scenario because when I need to fix something niche without a lot of information about it I’ll be fucked when I Google the issue and the top results are all AI guides or I’ll ask on Reddit and AI comments how to fix it. (I know the Reddit example isn’t a thing yet I hope but who knows.)

I recommend whenever you fix a niche unique problem just quickly write down how you did it so that information isn’t forgotten it’s really helpful and saves time.

I feel like this conversation can go on forever so this is my last comment towards it and I’m going to be super clear.

“Not every country will agree, but most will agree so it will work.”

I don’t know why you are quoting here I didn’t say that.

I’m not giving up a fight against AI has barely even started there is nothing to give up.

I’m using OpenAI as an example here but this applies to most AI companies.

What I meant was if every country won’t agree, then AI companies will just move to those countries that haven’t agreed and some of those countries might welcome these companies. Because if a company like OpenAI agrees to fund building projects like power plants it’ll benefit OpenAI and their project and also benefit the country because free power plants.

It’s a basic explanation and there is more that goes on of course.

At first investors might be scared, but if OpenAI can bounce back so will their stock price short term losses for long term gains.

Now let’s say they bounced back these countries where OpenAI has helped out and built infrastructure won’t want to regulate what they do to much because they won’t want to lose all the benefits OpenAI has brought.

On a side note I also don’t understand why you seem so upset on me “giving up” when you yourself have said.

It won’t. But it could!

I’m reading back what I’ve said and I’m having a hard time seeing where I even imply it’s impossible or that we should give up all I said is not every country will agree?

I’m not saying we should give up I was giving a more realistic answer.

Not every country will agree and some might be interested in having companies like OpenAI moving to their country and investing in the country.

There is 2 type of AI content generating users at least from what I understand.

1. Normal people who makes stupid memes, emojis and whatever else. They don’t care if their AI generated emoji has a watermark since these pictures are used in 1 on 1 chat or group chats with few people.

2. People who profit off this and are the cause of most of the slop seen on front pages. These people use AI to either data harvest for profit or make content for profit and as long as it makes them money they’ll jump though as many hoops as they need to.

The people who create AI generated content for profit are the biggest problem they have AI working 24/7 spitting out crap for their AI generated TikTok page and usually generate more than an average user might over the course of months.

There is of course more than just that example.

Books Music Ads Comments Games Code

These are the examples I can think of the top of my head.

Ok let’s say the United States passes a law where AI content needs to be water marked.

That won’t stop an AI company from a different country hosting their servers in a different country.

A water mark might be easily removed for the most part also.

That also means human moderators need to step in and check if let’s say a song is AI.

You can make the audio file of the song state “This is AI music” or something but anyone can edit that out.

In theory in could work but in practice it could make things worse.

AI generates water marked image > Different AI removes it is a basic example.

That’ll use more energy than just having the first AI generate non water marked image.

I would take laws and regulation over nothing any day, but marking content as “AI” doesn’t solve the bigger problems.

Thanks for this I didn’t know these existed.

AI content doesn’t need to exist at all the few benefits don’t outweigh all the negatives.

Even if people didn’t abuse it and used it for it’s intended purpose AI is stupid.

These companies include “ai isn’t accurate” or something along the lines of that on their website.

But if it isn’t accurate whats the point of anyone using it since after it gives me false information I’ll go Google the answer or ask for an answer on a forum?

If it’s not accurate whats the point of it being at the top of my search result??

AI doesn’t need to be there at all if I have to look for the answer to my question elsewhere.

So people use a bunch of electricity just for a non accurate answer then use more electricity to look up the answer elsewhere.