I personally would remove or edit the post with an update if I made a comment like this (alluding to committing adventurism) like I know you’ve clarified you didn’t mean it and that’s good, but I think keeping that part up is still harmful and the least you could do is make an update that it’s not serious.

I just think we make mistakes and this is one of them. I’m still sympathetic with you don’t get me wrong I just think it would be more mature of you to reconsider what you say online in regards to making vague threats. Like idk I’m nearly 30 and I would personally cringe at myself if I made a post like this lol

I shouldn’t be up at midnight I have work in 8 hours

That’s a teeny bit immature imo

I’m pretty old compared to the average age of this community

Then I think it’s your duty to set an example to the younger people who are a part of this community and not encourage adventurism even in the form of venting frustrations.

We all deal with hardships from time to time and it’s not just exclusive to you. I’d advise you edit the adventurism part from the post so people don’t get the wrong idea.

I don’t understand what you mean, what has likely been run through state agencies?

Also I don’t want to encourage this behavior it’s very defeatist and counter-revolutionary and you should know better if you’re a real leftist. Money running out and being laid off aren’t good excuses to do an adventurism.

Also you strike me as someone young so if this is the case you have to understand that as you age and the more you develop and spend time doing productive things like community work and organizational work, you will be less likely to see adventurism as an option. I just think you need to be told that it’s cringe to say a certain thing for an online audience because we’re all just usernames. Please don’t do anything stupid

I hope the last line isn’t serious and it’s just an offhand remark due to your situation like I totally understand the emotional toll unemployment has but using this as the motivator to think about doing adventurism is really immature.

You do understand that it’s not just you that suffers the consequences but your family members, friends, and loved ones who are now going to be monitored by the state for as long as they’re in power?

I don’t think it’s fair to subject them to this over this insatiable urge to be martyred, I think this is an issue with a lot of people who have their ideological awakening online. Jt isn’t a healthy outlook not just as a leftist but as a person and there’s better ways you can manage the stresses you’re experiencing.

We have a group chat so I’m thinking that I should send a message asking them if they wanna meet up and talk about it

i live in a major city and a lot of my colleagues are leftists or liberal kinda like Bernie types. i think they might get excited over the idea of a union and i have mentioned it before. I just need to be able to talk to them soon

Personally i think a lot of my coworkers, especially the younger ones and near my age are all fairly aware of leftism and stuff. It helps that we live in a major city so like they totally understand and I’ve been able to discuss this with a few of them. I still want to take the advice of others here and maybe lay off from putting these out for now and I’ll just wait till we know which unions will support us.

I hear you!

And yeah that was me! PSL did help me and the member for that had experience in organizing. It wasn’t really PSL backed it was just a meeting i had with the member to get any resources and help with unionizing which they did and i think ill get some info soon about which unions to join soon

I’m going to wait to see which unions I’ll be able to join so i can just use their pamphlets instead because they would be more welcoming than my own. I think this was a little side project for me I got a bit too excited after my first meeting with PSL lol!

My coworker mama (her nickname for opsec) who is really into organizing and giving me encouragement is my supervisor though so i hope this isn’t a problem. i still trust her though and like she’s only a supervisor so I think it’s safe. I also have a real good relationship with my boss he’s really sweet and even though he’s part of the upper management team i still think he would support this because his relationship with his superiors might be strained anyway. Imagine getting my boss to join the union too 😱

I’ve read through everyone’s comments and I think i got too excited with the content and I think i should maybe lay off handing these out. I got too eager with it all and I’ll just wait till we’ve joined a union before handing anything out. I think their pamphlets will be a lot more easy to read and more inviting and have less agitating language.

Thank you for this!

Thank you for your comment!

Be perfect. I mean absolutely perfect, in every way you possibly can. If you’ve ever made a mistake at work, it will be used against you.

Do you think there’s a chance at management going after some coworkers interested in joining the union if let’s say they made a mistake like coming in late? I say this because I don’t want there to be a situation where in an attempt to demoralize us they might go after some employees just because they want to unionize? Can this happen?

nothing could’ve prepared me for how intense this experience has been.

Can you elaborate? No need if it’s too much to write about but it would be nice to know what I’m kinda getting myself into. i am fairly confident in sticking the landing with this thing and i am anxious at the same time but i wont let my anxiety dissuade me.

It’s like they expect us to know EVERYTHING about the company and then get mad when we don’t know.

I don’t live and breathe the company, its a job…

Thank you for this comprehensive list!

The person from the PSL i spoke to got the gist of it and encouraged me to try it even if there was a possibility of failure. they seem to think there’s a good chance because im very straightforward and they seem to think im very personable and they said this is a good thing especially when taking the lead on something like this. They are going to go through potential union matches with me on monday but I think teamsters is one of the strongest options from the data I’ve collected, but i am open to any other unions of course. hopefully when monday comes i get an extensive outlook on the union itself and maybe even some info on their lawyers.

oooo i really like the spreadsheet idea and I’ll get to work on that soon. i know for sure that when I’ve mentioned unionizing in brief some of the staff on shift shared interest especially when I could bake in some class solidarity. my coworker mama is like my work mom and even though she isn’t really aware of class consciousness she’s an example of that lived experience and she’s a great listener so i think i will try to work closer with her because she’s really close with most of the members of staff and i think she can be a great tool at getting this project up and running. i think as it stands i might have somewhere around 50% support but i think this number will increase no doubt with the help of mama.

i feel really good about this and excited. I’m very optimistic. Thanks again for the support!

For one temp job they asked me what I was doing in the year I was unemployed and I told them i had to take care of a family member who passed and now im trying to get back into the workforce. I also said that within that timeframe i was doing gig economy work every now and then so that I could earn money but closer to home so I could care for the family member. Just try your best to make it all up, amazon, uber, you could even go as far to say you’ve been volunteering and they might not even question it.

I don’t think people want to question a death of a family member especially if you can pass it off as believable. Nobody wants to question whether it’s truth or not and usually the automatic response is “im really sorry to hear that.”

This is useful to know thank you. I will look into my city’s PSL branch and reach out to get some resources

Is PSL hard to get into? I’ve heard they’re one of the best orgs but that their vetting process is fairly tight. Unless of course they give advice if you ask