America is stupid for excessive guns. But this is stupid in the other direction. Talk about over policing. Fuck me this is stupid

Just walk halfway to the gym and then give up and walk home.

There is a key difference there I think. That is that one is engaged in saving people that are about to die, the other has power to ruin a large swath of ordinary lives and set orders in place that destroy industries or prop up harmful ones, and remove agencies and regulations that keep people safe. They should be held accountable at all times of their presidency. They should be concerned about what can happen if they make a greviously bad decision. There should be no immunity and they should be held accountable for their actions just as every other person in this country is.

And again, in an ideal world, they would be held accountable by laws. But in this case, if we are talking Trump, he will not be because the highest court in the nation, is corrupt and planted by him as loyalists to him, and will give him a free pass and now will say it was because he had immunity. I and ideal world we wouldn’t have to have this conversation, but we are not talking about an ideal world.

True, but your defense of it does give the appearance that you at the least do not mind it. You don’t seem to find it problematic, and to others that itself is also problematic. Please feel free to contradict me if I’m wrong, but from what you’ve said so far you really, as I mentioned, do seem to not see the issues or repercussions this will have.

And the courts bought by Trump and Co. will see to it that every criminal behavior is considered official and constitutional. You are a bit blind if you see this having any positive effect. The president, and anyone else for that matter, should have zero immunity. Immunity only invites abuse. Just look at qualified immunity for a great example of how it is a failed idea.

What’s a criminal act when your highest court gives you a free pass? Laws mean nothing if they are not enforced.

Really varies on where you go and who you talk to. It’s not a universal thing.

What a grand and intoxicating innocence.

Agreed. It’s why I’ll always oppose them.

The conservatives opinions bother me. But the authoritarianism is the bigger issue to me. This desire to force their opinions and wills on other people instead of living their lives as they want and leaving others alone is far more problematic.

Just a prank bro!

Because neither of those are forced imperialist occupations.

A people and it’s government are two different things. And frequently the government does not give accurate representation of its people’s desires.

But let’s say the USA, because I assume that’s what you are insinuating by westerners, is 100x more evil than all other countries combined. Does that mean the Russian government isn’t bad? Nope. Truth doesn’t change based on the moral character of another separate unrelated entity. Even if that entity is worse and even if that worse entity is the one saying the truth.

I’m aware. Please quote where I attacked you.

The elevation of critical thinking faculties to being the measure of a man is a very modern post Renaissance concept, one that is slowly losing traction thankfully

You celebrate the loss of critical thinking right here in your own words.

Why would you celebrate the loss of critical thinking?

Pretty much the boat a lot of us are in.

Common sense is to lock your doors at night or when not home, and don’t take candy from strangers. It does not extend to nuanced and intricate discussions such as this. Sense needs to be applied but to insinuate that it is intuitive to the degree of common sense is a poor stance in this discussion.

I mean to really change whether third parties work in the US we need systemic changes and regulations to the voting structure because getting a populist movement stateside is nigh impossible. The only reason to vote for someone that doesn’t represent you halfway is to hopefully prevent the person who doesn’t represent you at all from getting in.

We would really need changes to how voting is done on a regulation level to see the viability of federal 3rd parties. Some States do ranked choice which has really boosted 3rd party viability. I’d like to see that or something similar to it on a federal level.