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  • But that’s on Nintendo. For those people the game doesn’t cost $70, it costs $200+ even if they buy a used Switch lite. Nintendo is deliberately leveraging their games to make people buy their console when those people just want to buy the game.

    They want to have their cake and eat it too, and that is most likely one of the biggest reasons people pirated TOTK.


  • I don’t think you have an idea of how much of an information bubble Russia is in? In case you haven’t noticed the “western” internet speaks almost universally English. Unless you’re in some niche national community you’re unlikely to see any other language. We’re speaking English right now and that’s not my first language. Last time I checked something like 1 in 20 Russians understand English and even less can actually speak it. The vast majority of the Russian population, despite having near full access to the internet, are locked in the Russian sphere of information. And their primary search tool, Yandex, is majority owned by the oligarchs.

    When you live in Russia you really have to go out of your way to escape the Russian propaganda. The vast majority of people in any country would never go to such lengths to get an broader view of a subject. Most probably wouldn’t even understand they need a broader view than what their regular media feeds them.



  • GoodEye8@lemm.eetoMemes@lemmy.mlCapitalist logix
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    Free? When was the last time you got free food? Free in the fully subsidized by the government kind of way. Unless you live on food stamps (in which case you’re usually fucked in pretty much every other way) I can’t think of another way how you’d get free food. I guess technically dumpster diving but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time until it’s made illegal (if it’s not already illegal).

    And if the food not free then more available food doesn’t matter if the people can’t afford it. We produce enough food to feed everyone and we still have people without food security.




  • He’s not talking about the communist manifesto, he’s talking about Das Kapital. If you don’t care to read it there are YouTube summaries such as this one . If you want to get straight into the meat of the subject you can start from chapter 4 and if you think it’s all stupid take the 5-6 minutes to listen to chapter 7 so you’d at least know where socialists are coming from when they say capitalists are stealing your money.



  • Since you’re so incapable of thinking for yourself I’ll go through it again with everything you mentioned. Same prerequisite except now everyone has a phone and excess phones turn instantly to waste, or do you need a point by point explanation on how excess supply turns into waste?

    Scenario 1: Every year 1000 new phones get released.

    • Y1: 500 people buy new phones and sell their old phones. 500 people buy used phones and throw away 500 phones because nobody wants to buy the previous phone. 500 phones just go to waste. End of the year e-waste is 1000 phones
    • Y2: Same thing. End of year waste is 2000 phones.
    • Y3: Same thing. End of year waste is 3000 phones.
    • Y10: Still the same thing. End of year waste is 10k phones.

    Scenario 2: Every 3 years 1000 new phones get released.

    • Y1: 500 people buy new phones and sell their old phones. 500 people buy used phones and throw away 500 phones because nobody wants to buy the previous phone. 500 new phones go to waste. End of the year e-waste is 1000 phones
    • Y2: People keep using the phones they have. End of the year e-waste is 1000 phones
    • Y3: People keep using the phones they have. End of the year e-waste is 1000 phones
    • Y5: New phone comes out. 500 people and sell their old phones. 500 people buy used phones and throw away 500 phones because nobody wants to buy the previous phone. 500 new phones go to waste. End of the year e-waste is 2000 old phones
    • Y6: People keep using the phones they have. End of the year e-waste is 2000 phones
    • Y7: People keep using the phones they have. End of the year e-waste is 2000 phones
    • Y8: New phone comes out. 500 people and sell their old phones. 500 people buy used phones and throw away 500 phones because nobody wants to buy the previous phone. 500 new phones go to waste. End of the year e-waste is 3000 old phones
    • Y0: People keep using the phones they have. End of the year e-waste is 3000 phones
    • Y10: People keep using the phones they have. End of the year e-waste is 3000 phones

    As you can see. Even with supply meets the demand exactly you generate waste if you release a new phone every year. If the supply exceeds the demand it generated waste. I don’t see how it could be made any clearer beyond also going over your comment point by point.

    Why would you make your scenario supply constrained?

    Because how do you create a secondary market that would buy used phones? I could’ve gone with “people are poor” but that is much harder to put into an example. The supply constraint itself doesn’t matter, but I did my best with the new example.

    Your argument is simply if we sold less phones, less would go to e-waste, and duh.

    Nope. My argument was that if we made less phones less would go to e-waste. That also covers unsold phones that go straight into waste as evident from my new example.

    That wasn’t debate, it was whether releasing new phones every year was wasteful vs new phones being released every 2-3 years.

    If you release a new phone every year you manufacture more phones. I guess technically you can manufacture the same amount of the same model for 2-3 years as you would manufacture yearly new phone. But that makes no sense from an enterprising point of view because you reach market saturation and the phones simply don’t get sold, you’re just manufacturing a loss for the company. Even if you manufacture the same model yearly you’re still going to manufacture them less (due to demand dropping) than if you made a new model every year.

    Your scenario also assuming people buy used or they just don’t have a phone. People who buy a used phone generally do so instead of buying a new phone.

    If you paid attention you would’ve noticed that in both previous scenarios 800-900 people bought used phones and only 100-200 people bought brand new phones. I did that deliberately because you argued that reselling the phone has an effect when it really doesn’t. At the end of the line the person who bought the last used phone throws their current phone away because you can’t sell that to anyone. Which means as long as phone is manufactured regardless of whether it gets sold or not or resold or not, eventually it will go in the bin as e-waste. The best way to reduce waste is to not produce excessively like we’re doing right now.


  • Are you stupid? Let’s say we have 1000 people and they all want the latest phone, all manufactured phones get bought and everyone sells their old phones. And phones don’t break.

    Scenario 1: Every year 200 new phones get released.

    • Year 1. 200 most willing to pay the highest price buy a new phone, 800 are without a phone
    • Year 2. The same 200 buy the latest model and sell their old one. The next 200 get the “new” used phone. 600 are without phones.
    • Year 3, 4 and 5 I imagine are self-explanatory. By the end of year 5 everyone has phone.
    • Year 6. The most willing buy the 200 new phones and sell their old phone. The next group buy the previous group phones and sell their current phone. The last group has nobody to sell to because nobody wants their phone. 200 phones go into e-waste.
    • Year 7. Goes like year 6 except now there’s a total of 400 phones in e-waste.
    • Year 8, 9 and 10 follow the same pattern. By the end of year 10 there 1000 phones in e-waste.
    • Year 20. By the end of the year there will be 3000 phones in e-waste.

    Scenario 2: 100 phones get released (to better stimulate the real world because someone is going release a phone anyway, but you can also imagine 200 phones releasing every 2 years as the numbers will the same for every even year).

    • Year 1. 100 people get a phone.
    • Year 2. 100 people buy the new phone and sell the old one. 100 people buy the old phone.
    • Years 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 are the same pattern. By the end of year 10 everyone has a phone
    • Year 11 the first year phones go into e-waste because nobody wants them. Total 100 phones in e-waste.
    • Year 12 the next 100 phones go into waste. Total 200 phones in e-waste.
    • Years 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19 are the same pattern.
    • Year 20. By the end of the year 1000 phones are e-waste.
    • Year 40. By the end of the year 3000 phones are e-waste.

    It literally cannot be empirically untrue because what I said is mathematically true. Let’s say that in both scenario 1 and scenario 2 at the end of year 50 they decide to throw away all phones and never create another phone again. In scenario 1 there would be 10 000 e-waste phones. In scenario 2 there would be 5000 e-waste phones. The more you create the more waste will come down the line. If you want less waste, make less phones.

    And before you go “but recycling?” only about 20% of e-waste gets recycled and the recycling process doesn’t recycle all the waste.