Yeah this is fucked up. Imagine being targeted and demonized by half the country and our entire soon-to-be government, while our “left wing” candidates and pundits just treated you like political hot potato all year. I especially feel for kids whose families don’t even support them. Hope these hotlines stay well staffed at least…

It will eventually be paid for with crypto TrumpBux mined by mandatory Neuralink brain chips.

I’ve been trying to find some excuses to be optimistic. Here’s a few potential silver linings:

1. If Trump/Project 2025 manages to accomplish their goal of tearing down the federal government, people will suffer immediately, including republicans, when they lose their Medicare, social security, access to healthcare, free education (daycare), prices go up, wages stay stagnant, unemployment and underemployment skyrocket, etc. This could open up a window in 2028 or 2032 where these programs need to be replaced, and it can be with non-halfassed universal systems like single-payer health insurance, UBI, etc. All the big brain swing voters might even be desperate and angry enough to actually pay attention and support them.

2. I hope 2024 demonstrated the importance of having primaries and participating in them. We might look forward to increased turnout in 2026 and 2028 primaries. If people want to nominate a left-leaning Democrat, primary turnout needs to be overwhelming. Unfortunately they might need to see centrists get wrecked a few more times. It’s possible that a third party rises out of this eventually, but more likely a progressive Democrat will eventually get a chance to run. In any case, sitting on your hands and whining about the system is not effective.

Do these help during the next 4 years? Not really, but go vote in the fucking primary in 2026 and nominate congressional candidates who want to talk about progressive policies. A little bit of hope goes a long way. Moderates don’t offer hope. 2016-2020 felt bearable because I thought Sanders would have a chance in 2020. I need some hope for 2028.

Also vote in your local elections in 2025 and 2027 too.

We can’t move on without a proper segue. How about politics+beans memes? I can’t imagine anyone would be unhappy with that.

Yes - the ones who tell the majority of the party what to think and do.

Yep - I was up all night watching results (which was stupid and yes I feel terrible today) and I caught some Morning Joe before I finally went to bed.

I thought he was about to make a good point when he said that Democrats can’t just keep saying “Trump bad, Democrats virtuous,” but then ofc he went on to blame “the sliver of the Democratic Party who call themselves progressives” and that they will need to shift even further to the right next time.

Pundits are going fucking wild with this.

I agree with you, but you should know that the media is already blaming “the small sliver of the Democratic Party who call themselves progressives.”

Pundits are talking about how Democrats need to shift even further to the right next time. So that’s not going to be fixed any time soon unless voters show up to primaries in a way that can’t be ignored.

Well I did say they are dumb AF.

Hope there will be a legitimate election in 2028, and show up to the fucking primary before it and in 2026.

I think Trump won because of the economy. Yes, he has a rabid base that really does want his fascism, but the voters who pushed him over the edge are ones suffering because inflation and the wealth gap that has just been allowed to increase unimpeded. Those voters don’t want fascism - they’re just dumb AF and don’t pay attention. They just voted for “change.”

These problems will only increase over the next 4 years, so there will be another opportunity defy the status quo in 2028. We had a chance and failed to do in 2016. We came closer in 2020. We didn’t have a real primary in 2024. When we get to 2028, it’s time to fucking do it.

The tankies on Lemmy are not the progressives that Sanders is speaking to.

Those progressives feel disenfranchised by Democrats and will rightly drop support for the “moderate” candidate next time there’s an election where the alternative is not a mask-off fascist. Some of them might do it this year, unfortunately. Maybe this is their first time voting, and they’re struggling with settling for the lesser evil. Maybe they’ve been doing it all their life and they’re tired of it. They’re the ones Sanders is trying to persuade.

Tankies, on the other hand, don’t actually give a fuck about their own moral arguments. They would be in Gaza murdering Palestinians with their own hands if they thought it would accelerate the collapse of the US and the rest of the western world. But why get your hands dirty when Trump can drop MOABs because of “the power” or whatever dumb shit he’s going to do. They hope Trump wins so that China and Russia will need to rescue the world from a fascist dictator in the US. They’re hoping for a new world order - like what the allies did after they defeated nazi germany.

It’s easy to confuse them around here because there are so many tankies among the well-meaning progressives getting swept up by tankie opportunism.

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I never had to see one IRL until yesterday, when I saw two in about 3 minutes. I was surprised at how much more dangerous and stupid they look in person.

I’m not saying he is the pigeon lady, but I’m not not saying he is or isn’t a pigeon lady.

I have nipples, Greg.

There are 4 pips,

At least it’s the newly elected House that starts its session in January, right?

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Be wary of side hatch

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“I just need to post three more times to bump that one off the page forever.”

Always hire a monopoly lawyer.