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  • That’s how they’re trying to sell it. But why did Elastic and Redis drop SSPL if it was so good, and why did OSI not accept it as open source? The answers are here but the TLDR is that SSPL is vague and, as a consequence, makes it risky to provide a service with the product, unless you are large enough to make a big lucrative deal with the owner of the product.

    This stifles competition and innovation.

    Case in point: Mongo DBAs are nearly non-existent outside California and managed MongoDB is much more expensive than managed PostgreSQL/MariaDB services, because it is only offered by 3 providers.

    https://www.ssplisbad.com/


  • Saying you are “MongoDB compatible” is IP violation?

    Meanwhile they are still actively opposing the creation of an open document database standard, which would make it unnecessary to use their brand name to indicate compatibility.

    They also sent Peter a “Cease And Desist” for saying MongoDB is not open source. They themselves retracted the SSPL from the OSI when it became clear it would be rejected because it is not open source.

    Wonder how much 💩 is in their heads for not realizing everyone gave up on SSPL, and that Postgres is thriving because of the permissive license: even the tiniest local managed services providers have a Postgresql service, there’s tons of DBA talent available, and due to the competition in managed services, a managed postgres is much cheaper than managed MongoDB.

    They’ll keep shooting themselves in the foot until someone else puts a lead shoe on it.



  • Shoutout to FerretDB doing God’s work.

    Putting data from apps that were built for MongoDB into Postgres.

    https://github.com/FerretDB/FerretDB

    And their lived experience trying to help the MongoDB ecosystem by building an open standard for document databases:

    In 2021, we founded FerretDB with a bold vision: to return the document database market to its open source roots by creating the leading open source alternative to MongoDB, built on Postgres.

    For years, we tirelessly advocated for an open standard. We built a popular product, collaborated with Microsoft to open source DocumentDB, and held high-level meetings with cloud providers and stakeholders to make the case for a standard that is similar to SQL, but for document databases.

    In 2023, a MongoDB VP reached out to me. On a Zoom call, we were threatened with a lawsuit for building a compatible product. Being called a thief by a leader of a (then) $35B company was a moment of stark clarity on MongoDB’s opinion about our work and the need for a standard. At the end of that call, I told them the industry would inevitably come together to create the open standard they refused to provide.

    Their response? “They would never do that. They are our trusted partners.”

    Today, the market has spoken. The Linux Foundation has announced the adoption of the DocumentDB project [1] to create an open standard with MongoDB compatibility, the exact thing we were sued for earlier this year. [2]

    This is a monumental win for developers and enterprises everywhere. It validates the years of work we’ve poured into this mission.

    It is also telling that MongoDB’s SSPL license has been abandoned by Elastic or Redis, the two prominent companies who were initially in favor of MongoDB’s attempt to redefine open source. All clear signs that MongoDB’s behavior is not appreciated by developers. […]

    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/farkasp_in-2021-we-founded-ferretdb-with-a-bold-activity-7365677216912859136-jNNJ














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    It is possible that this misgendering was part of a pattern of abuse: there are laws against being abusive to your coworkers.

    This publication is clearly trying to make it look like using the wrong pronoun accidentally will cause “the gays” to sue you for tens of thousands, which is obviously nonsense.