What a lazy take.

Man, I feel like this comment doesn’t take the election process in America into account. Sure you could vote 3rd party and have a clean conscience, but it’s at the cost of the worst of two options gaining power.

Agree to disagree then. Thanks for the exchange.

To be clear - the “leftists” I mentioned above aren’t really leftists. Next time I’ll add the /s next to it to be clear. The whole point of the post was to call out bad faith actors.

Then you came in missing the point.

Now as I understand it, you’re suggesting I word my posts better so you catch the sarcasm?

Nah, fam. Thanks though.

Thanks for telling me what my point was, dipshit.

Yeah, super ignorant take that purported lefties on Lemmy are playing spoiler under the guise of condemning genocide.

The post was for astroturfing fucks on Lemmy. Way to miss the point.

Absolutely no disagreement there. I don’t condone genocide, and think we should do something about it but I’m not foolish enough to think not voting for the lesser of two evils accomplishes this. We are in agreement.

C’mon enlightened lefties! Come on and tell me how you won’t be voting for genocide and we should follow so the Democrats figure out through losing the election that they should court lefties. Nevermind we get 4 years of, “he’s doing a good job” as long as Democrats learn to denounce genocide.

C’mon you fucking cowards, get in here and sell me on how Trump winning helps solve your single issue voting on genocide.

Man, fuck off with this partisan bullshit

Whew the tankies and astroturfers are out in force in these comments. I think we got the gamut going here:

1. “I don’t vote for genocide”
2. “A vote for 3rd party isn’t a vote for Trump”
3. “If we don’t vote 3rd party nothing will change”
4. “Jill Stein isn’t a Russian asset”
5. “Who cares if Trump wins; they’re both bad / nothing worse will happen l both sides”
6. “I literally don’t understand how Trump can win if I vote 3rd party because I don’t understand the difference between voting for and against a candidate”
7. “Liberals / Democrats / Harris voters are the real fascists”

Solid work astroturfers! Glad to see you’re still trotting out these arguments despite plenty of Lemmy users discrediting each and every one. Really shows grit and dedication.

Also, calling it now that at least one of them replies with something about how they’re true / haven’t been discredited.

Don’t come to Lemmy for math proofs, particularly in a political conversation. What an obtuse statement.

Great deduction skills there.

Sure, you can’t literally steal a vote, but either you’re unfamiliar with American colloquialisms or being deliberately obtuse. It’s a term that describes exactly what you’re doing here - actively trying to convince people to vote against something using deception.

Yes, you’re being deceptive by trying to drive democratic voters to split their vote so the right wins. I have yet to see you make a single good faith argument here.

You need 270 Electoral College votes to prevent the vote going to the states for the Presidency. There are 538 votes available. The only way to have more than two parties compete and have the election not go to the House is if one party is unified and has large public support against the other parties that do not. This essentially creates a single-party state.

Ergo, our system is designed to have two parties, each with roughly half the population behind them. Anything more mathematically ends in a single party state.

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This Green Party is shilling for Republicans. Sure sounds like serving elite interests to me.

Nope, you’re right. I did it in my head and forgot to multiply by 100. Good catch!

If so then wouldn’t Green Party leaders be included?

Ah yeah I remember that! I remember everyone talking about the 3% threshold where (if I remember correctly) the green party would be included in debates and receive federal campaign funds. Hell, if they couldn’t do it at the height of Nader always I don’t see that happening now, particularly under Stein.

Wait, the Green Party only had 300k members at it’s peak? That’s 0.001% of the American population. Why are all the tankies in here talking about how voting for Stein will make a difference? That’s not even enough to consider her a contender in most states, much less for the whole country.

Edit: should be 0.1%. My bad and thanks for the correction!