Um capitalism? Wonder how long before Liberals realize hey are as expendable to the ruling elite as the working class. But even if they did realize I think change scares them even more than the status quo.

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    ventilation, filtration, and time off for illness sell better than “wear a mask you lib”

    they sell better, they also don’t work. But yea that stuff too once people learn to put a piece of fuckin cloth on their face

    imagine walking into a shop that filters all their air through a HEPA and has 2300 windows but some guy literally just breathes in your vicinity.

    The tier list is:
    not being around people >>>>> masks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything fucking else

    • Paid time off for sickness and free and easy testing are more effective than masks

      In which situation are you more likely to get sick? Being in a room masked with someone with covid? Or the person with covid not being there in the first place because they stayed home with a positive test?

      Really you want all of the above, and you can remove some layers if there aren’t cases. Improve filtration and ventilation, give paid time off for illness, frequent and cheap tests, vaccine mandates, and wear masks at least in high traffic areas like transit. Then if cases are higher, lockdowns and mask requirements in places that didn’t require them before.

      Basically, do China’s zero covid policy.

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        Paid time off for sickness and free and easy testing are more effective than masks

        No they’re not, people can spread it asymptomatically
        And the tests have a ~35% false negative rate

        But yes paid time off for sickness is always good and should happen, just not the best avenue for dealing with covid

        • We should be doing PCR tests again, not rapid antigen tests. Do routine testing, not just when symptomatic. Like we were in 2020.

          It’s better to have people with covid stay home than be out but wearing masks.

          China’s zero-covid policy should be the shining example.

          I’m not against masks, I wear my KN95 every time I go in public. But ultimately I don’t want to be wearing it at work all day. And masking in bars and restaurants is obviously not really feasible. Getting kids to keep them on in school all day is difficult.

          Masks alone will not stop the spread when bars, restaurants, and schools are all open.

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      Time off, ventilation, filtration, and testing definitely work. Masking is an important tool, and yes it is a tool that needs to be employed more, but even the highest quality mask is going to let in viruses if the air concentration is high enough. I’m busy atm, but I’m happy to send sources of requested. Sorry that I’m not referencing my statements at this time.