The admin of sh.itjust.works has been approached but as of yet has failed to reply to concerned Lemmy users. I’m glad Beehaw admins look out for us by cutting off instances that host communities like this.

  • alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgM
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    i think you should assume good faith but i will say as a user it… does not really inspire confidence that this needs to be “reviewed” when it’s like two people doing the unfunniest bit imaginable. this should be a pretty easy nuke, and it really shouldn’t need the community weighing in. letting it stand will eventually let the cretins fester.

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      Not just nuking the donald community. But banning each and every subbed community member. Else they’ll still be there, roaming the instance and spreading malicious ideas.

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        Yeah, that feels like crossing a line for me. I don’t believe in guilt by association.

        How do you know somebody didn’t just subscribe to monitor them?

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          Nor does it take into account that people’s views can change, and an outright ban simply for being part of the community only isolates them from the less batshit communities that may help them actually move away from it.

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            I recently read a letter by Dietrich Bonnhoefer, who was a German Lutheran pastor and anti-Nazi dissident, who was imprisoned in 1943, hanged by Hitler’s personal directive in April 1945.

            His letter is titled “On Stupidity” and it explains A LOT.

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          Yeah, I’ve known plenty of antifascists subscribed to, or otherwise technically “members” of awful online spaces just to keep an eye on things.

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      Well, the dude has a vision that the community should discuss it first, they have, and it’s now deleted.

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      Just wanted to let you know that you can mark the community as “removed” on your backend and it’ll disappear from beehaw even if you federate to the the s.j.w instance.

      I also wanted to let you know that The Dude created a “Greek Democracy” style system called The Agora. That’s probably what he means by “review”. He said a few days ago that anything important would be thrown there for the crowd to decide.

      I have little doubt that by the end of the week the 1 or 2 users running TD won’t have a home there anymore.

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        I also wanted to let you know that The Dude created a “Greek Democracy” style system called The Agora. That’s probably what he means by “review”. He said a few days ago that anything important would be thrown there for the crowd to decide.

        i’m aware, and i’ve stated already why i don’t think this is worth that (and separately, i have extreme reservations about using a system of that sort to make decisions like this).

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          Noted. Thanks for clarifying. I think he just wants to give his little pet project Agora a test run to start things up since he just set it up lol. I bet if it were a month into it he wouldn’t do that.

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      Says more about admins honestly. Sh.itjust.works is going to become a sh.it.hole.

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        maybe. but i’m not in the business of telling The Dude how to personally administer his community as a fellow admin–hence me taking off the mod cap for that post–and we don’t really have any reason to think The Dude is a bad guy or that his instance has bad intentions. hopefully it’ll just resolve on its own.

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      What part of the last fifteem or so years of human history leads you to the fairly surprising assertion that you should assume good faith?

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          They mean that they think that humans in general are very bad because war and theft and hunger and greed and all of that. I mean there’s a shitton more than that in life but yeah I think that was their point.

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        It only becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you go into every situation thinking like that. Most people are pretty decent, it’s only that they try to do what they believe is right.

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      Taking off your mod cap doesn’t give you the distance you think it does. You essentially contradicted the pinned mod post you made.

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        You essentially contradicted the pinned mod post you made.

        we’re pretty upfront about where we stand on like, everything, so i don’t think it’s too much to ask of you to actually provide evidence of supposed contradictions. this should be something you can do in literally five minutes, probably less.

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            if you’re going to do UM AKSHUALLY rebuttals, it might behoove you to read the posts you’re doing that to, instead of making an ass of yourself. this was, quite literally, the first thing i said to the poster.

            i think you should assume good faith but i will say as a user it… does not really inspire confidence that this needs to be “reviewed” when it’s like two people doing the unfunniest bit imaginable.

            i just also have reservations about this, because in my mind as a user i do not think this really needs to be reviewed. it’s not a “community”, it’s like two people who have been overwhelmingly downvoted and pretty clearly conflict with what i assume are the goals of SJW.