cross-posted from: https://feddit.it/post/6569904
EDIT: the article is from the European Commission. This thing comes from a serious study based on hard facts and data. Check this comment by @wooster, who reported the data
It’s not a typo: plug-in hybrids are used, in real word cases, with ICE much more than anticipated.
In the EU, fuel consumption monitoring devices are required on new cars. They studied over 10% of all cars sold in 2021 and turns out they use way more fuel, and generate way more CO2, than anybody thought.
The gap means that CO2 emissions reduction objectives from transport will be more difficult to reach.
Thruth is, we need less cars, not “better” cars.
Never trust anything that is sold or advertised as beneficial. Our society is built off of taking advantage of others. Hell is humanity.
Trams and trains exist…
Sadly collapse made them highly unreliable in Germany.
Ive heard some stuff about germany…
Here in Greece though, a year ago 57 people (~mainly students returning to their university city) died in a train collision with another train…
There are almost no safety measures in trains here… On the disaster above, it was 2 trains running at high speed on the same track against each other for like 10minutes… The government kinda tried and still tries to cover it up. It is said the other train carried illegal oil for fire or something (that’s why the collision caused a huge explosion). About a year later courts are being held and the government tries to do almost everything on their power to blame it to someone else or just bury the case…
(Trains in Greece ~no longer belong to public sector btw.)
2nd edit: It is very touching though that this made people this year and a year before go out and protest on the streets. Not a small protest, but huuuge protests with enormous attendance. This year even more went (including me).
We have had some train accidents in the last few years as well. When things fall apart loss of lives are part of the parcel.
What is (still) surprising is to see Seneca’s cliff in action. Not looking forward to the next quarter century.
Well then it’s a good thing that no one ever dies in car accidents! /s
I never understood the desire for hybrids. Isn’t that twice the technology that requires maintaining?
Transition from an old tech with 100+ years of development over to a new tech with decades of development. Electric cars as a concept had been around just as long, but not really developed. People were uncomfortable with the range of all-electric cars for a while. Today there’s no reason to use a hybrid, IMHO.
Electric cars are more expensive and the infrastructure to charge them isn’t as ubiquitous as gas stations.
I have an electric power outlet in my home, I do not have a gas station. All the homes around me are similarly equipped, based on that, car charging infrastruxture is MUCH more widespread
As ecar owners have opined to me, the best fast chargers are 100miles from your home, because you don’t need them at or near your home.
That said I don’t own an ecar, or an ice car because fuck cars. Cars are the problem.
I can’t afford an electric car
electric bikes a bad ass, just get a bike trailer . good for most stuff you use car for. you can produce your own electricity with just a couple panels at home to charge it. 10x-100x the efficiency of electric cars
I’m not taking an electric bike 45 miles to work lol I don’t ride a bike period around here. There are no bike lanes, everyone drives like shit in brodozers, and way to many bicyclists get killed and maimed every year. I wouldn’t mind a bike for going to the small town I live by, but I’m not dying to some shit head driving a truck that’s never been off of pavement.
No one is going to be able to live 45 miles from work in the future. Just sayin.
Except they’re priced so that no one but the well off can afford them.
Electric drivetrains are incredibly durable. They basically have one moving part - the rotor in the electric motor. Everything else is wiring and if it’s done correctly and not damaged it’ll last as long as the wiring in your house. Plus, the regenerative braking in the hybrid means that your brakes will last longer, and the engine has less stress on it so those components last a little longer, too.
My parents had one of the first 100 Priuses imported into the US and it lasted for 15 years with no major maintenance issues until my niece totaled it in a crash. If that hadn’t happened I think it would still be on the road.
I had a family member with a hybrid years ago, (but it was a more standard gas with a bonus battery setup) and who drove a ton for work.
The gas mileage was fantastic, and they weren’t limited by the range of electric.
Extra maintenance wasn’t really a problem, it just cost a bit more when it did come up. But, again, gas savings were worth it, so take this anecdote for what its worth.
Well the short version is yes.
But since Americans are generally resistant to change; hybrids are one option to move people towards better options like electric…
But YES it has more bits to maintain, and still uses gasoline… but it is a step in the right direction…
Next fight is fewer cars and electric vehicles
Hybrids do involve extra parts, but the wear/tear is split across the drivetrains to an extent.
Think if you have a set of regular “all season” tires and a set of winter tires. You have twice as many tires but the wear is split across the sets.
Of course you aren’t splitting it to that degree, but you aren’t just wearing 2x the parts either. In particularly, the Toyota hybrid system at least has been proven to be highly reliable. Part of this is the highly reliable transmission (eCVT) they use and some other parts (like the traditional starter motor) that aren’t needed.
This article explains it a little: https://inhabitat.com/hybrids-are-more-reliable-than-gas-cars-in-recent-report/
