From Summer House’s Ciara Miller

  • LadyButterfly she/her@piefed.blahaj.zoneM
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    They really are. And IME the scary thing is that they’re not necessarily DV abusers cos it’s not just DA perps thar hurt women.

    Also this has been up 3 hours and no manosphere have commented! Think this might be a record

    • velma@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      Yeah, it’s not always obvious with these types of men. Makes it even more scary - like that analogy of a bowl of skittles, but a few of them are poison. You don’t know which one will kill you.

      I like that record! Maybe we can continue to break it :)

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          Ah I found the original quote - I misremembered it as skittles, but same message:

          “Imagine a bowl of M&Ms. 10% of them are poisoned. Go ahead. Eat a handful. Not all M&Ms are poison. #YesAllWomen.”

          The premise being, of course, that while good men do exist in the world, women have spent a lifetime preparing to meet one who is not.

        • Talcosis@lemmy.zip
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          The original analogy is a box of chocolates, where some are poison. In the original German, it’s actually even more cool because the German word for poison is “gift”!

          (Also it was originally published in 1930s Germany, and the ‘poison chocolate’ referred to Jews)

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    This can’t be overstated. Men who don’t like women are the scariest people I’ve met.

    Men who don’t like women don’t see us as people, so they have an easier time lying, stealing from, and hurting us. Why would they care about people they don’t like? Hell, they don’t really see us as people to begin with.

    Even worse are the smart men who don’t like women, because let’s face it, people aren’t always idiots just because they’re bad people. They’re the kind to use our emotions against us, gaslight, abuse, take what they want from us and get away with it.

    These people are fucking terrifying.

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      Yeah it can be a bit of a minefield when you’re straight or bi! Luckily there are good men out there and they absolutely make it worth sifting through some of the shit.

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      20 days ago

      I’m asking this in a not snarky way - is this a serious question?

      Just in case it’s serious - think of the type of man who loves porn, but hates anything remotely “girly”. Will disparage art made by women, ignore women’s takes, talk down to women, but are happy enough to fuck them. The kind of guy that yells at his wife to quiet down, to make herself smaller, to clean his house, but wants his dick sucked.

      These are men that view women as objects to be used by men.

      • potatoboy@lemmy.world
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        Sort of. Not liking half of the world population is in its own a weird claim, the more you think of it. Unless ‘liking’ in this context only refers to attractiveness.

        But if not (might get a bit philosophical here) I do not think its actually possible to ‘dislike all woman’ based on any criteria.

        Unless someone dislikes everybody. That is fine I guess.

        Edit: sorry only read your first sentence and did my reply on that. What you are referring to is then disliking girlyness. That should be possible I think. Buy yeah then someone should like a non-girly woman I assume.

        Edit2: please don’t hate on me for commenting as a male on your community. Read the rules a bit late. I won’t infer with other stuff here, this image just popped on my feed.

        • velma@sh.itjust.worksOP
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          sorry only read your first sentence and did my reply on that. What you are referring to is then disliking girlyness. That should be possible I think. Buy yeah then someone should like a non-girly woman I assume.

          I wanted to address this comment. Not liking feminine things is part of hating women. Men who hate “girly” things don’t automatically like women that are “non-girly” (though what the fuck does that even mean).

          It is so incredibly possible and common for some men to hate women but still want to fuck them.

          You should really set aside some of your biases and look into this. People like Andrew Tate and such did not appear out of a vacuum. There’s a lot of people who hate women even though they want to fuck them.

          Please don’t respond and thank you for checking the rules.

          • potatoboy@lemmy.world
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            sweet summer child

            Thanks! :)

            Yeah I might be a bit naive sometimes. Or in my kinda feministic bubble and not really understand how hating woman works

              • potatoboy@lemmy.world
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                Thanks for the reading tip! Made a note on my to read list.

                And regarding the ‘girlyness’, I agree that’s undefinable, differs per person you would ask. I’d assume ‘woman-haters’ are not really aware of that. So they would be hating a made up view that is a overgeneralization based on personal experiences.

                I guess this still leaves the initial question open (and undoubtly, one that cannot be anwsered properly): how does disliking woman actually work?