• blarghly@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      This is true. But at the same time, shy guys should realizing that complaining about how “women should make the first move” will accomplish literally nothing, ever.

      First of all, most women get asked out all the time. Why would you go to the store to buy milk if someone delivers it for free to your doorstep every day? Asking someone out is (1) scary and (2) takes effort - if someone already has a ton of suitors, they have no incentive to do the scary hard thing.

      Second of all, what do women like? Say it with me - women like ✨CONFIDENCE✨. Like, for example, the confidence displayed by saying hi to her and asking her out on a date. “Man asks out woman” is one of the most common tropes in the dating dance, and a lot of women like doing that dance. They like a man being a man, and herself being a woman, and each of you playing your roles. Of course not all women are like this, but a lot of women are. Yes, including left leaning, feminist, lgbtq±supporting, Trump-hating women. Complaints about how “women should make the first move more because that would be more fair” will fall flat on their face with these women, because they don’t want to do that.

      And third, suppose your complaint is successfully filed with the bureau of women’s dating behaviors, and the board approves your request. Now all women must ask out 5 men per week. Who are they going to ask out? Do you think that it will perhaps be the men who are confident - ya know, the trait everyone has agreed women universally like? Do you think they are going to ask out the guy who is eagerly making his way through the party, meeting everyone with a huge smile and flirting all the pretty girls? Because that’s what I think would happen. Even if women were asking more men out, the shy guys who make this complaint would never benefit from this phenomenon because women want to date the guys who can ask other girls out, even if they choose not to exercise that option.

    • Broadfern@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Yeah, a lot of this is simply human variation.

      I’ve been in relationships where I’ve both been the asker and the askee, just depends on the dynamic ¯\(ツ)