Recently I was locked out of my own Ghost blog platform because they decided they were going to add Email 2FA. I also cannot add any other authors because that requires email verification.

Today I was looking at installing Bonfire and came across this:

Bonfire requires working email for user signups, password resets, and notifications. Most installations will need email configuration before the instance is usable.

Setting up email is a pain in the ass, costs money, is dependent on 3rd parties, violates privacy, and is just completely unnecessary. Why wouldn’t you give users the option to not use it? It’s infuriating!

      • porcoesphino@mander.xyzEnglish
        42·
        23 小时前

        I don’t think that assumption was inherent in the comment

        If you want an unpopular feature that doesn’t exist on an open source platform sometimes your only options are to code it, or ask someone else to. The skillset of the feature requester doesn’t change that

        • artyom@piefed.socialOPEnglish
          27·
          21 小时前

          your only options are to code it, or ask someone else to

          I wasn’t asking for options, I was asking for an explanation.

          • porcoesphino@mander.xyzEnglish
            1·
            2 小时前

            In your OP, sure.

            But this comment reads as a desired state, and in some situations thats a feature request (in this case it seems like there are architecture / system workarounds):

            I don’t want email to be accessible to those services. I don’t want those services to use email at all.

            Did you get an explanation you’re happy with?

      • MonsterTrick@piefed.worldEnglish
        53·
        1 天前

        To be fair, you are on a Self-hosting community but maybe read up the wiki or file the issue to suggest an option to make it not required on their git repo? 🤷

        Otherwise, I’m not sure what else are we suppose to say

        • artyom@piefed.socialOPEnglish
          37·
          1 天前

          I’m not sure what else are we suppose to say

          I wasn’t asking for advice, I was asking for an explanation.

          • frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish
            52·
            18 小时前

            You should probably ask the developers then. But the answer is probably to support things like password resets in environments with multiple users. It’s less development effort to implement it this way than to maintain multiple code paths with varying levels of account management.

              • CookieOfFortune@lemmy.worldEnglish
                41·
                17 小时前

                https://github.com/TryGhost/Ghost

                This is the repo (unless I have the wrong software).

                However, it seems they’re running a business, which means revenue generating features will probably be prioritized. They’re not running a charity.

                I’m sure if you donate enough money you can probably get them to implement better self hosting functionality. Chances are the email requirement is just what they have for other features.

                • artyom@piefed.socialOPEnglish
                  26·
                  17 小时前

                  Ghost is just one piece of selfhosted software. But I have inquired and they have declined.

                  They’re not running a charity.

                  They are, actually. They’re a registered non-profit.

                  Chances are the email requirement is just what they have for other features.

                  More unnecessary functionality.

                  • CookieOfFortune@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    6·
                    17 小时前

                    What was their reason for declining?

                    They are, actually. They’re a registered non-profit.

                    I see they’re a non profit business. That doesn’t make them a charity. They have paying customers.