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    We need to deal with the people behind this shit.

    Smith and Parker need to be charged criminally. They should be in jail right now.

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      You want to deal with the people behind this shit. Get your SHIT straight first. The “Anti Vax” crowd is an issue especially for children but the largest part of these measles are coming from the large number of Immigrants from India and Pakistan. When these immigrants are let into the country they are NOT required to have an updated MMR vaccine.

      Immigrants coming to Canada are not strictly required by law to have the MMR (measles, mumps, and rubella) vaccine to enter the country. Vaccinations are voluntary and not a condition of entry for immigration purposes.

      Source

      You can look at the Immigration Stats here

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        Wonderful information. And if you posted the vaccination rates for India, you’d notice that the single LOWEST Indian province has a rate 10% higher than Alberta (79% vs. 69% in Alberta); and that the overall vaccination rate against Measles in India is 93.5% - significantly higher than Canada.

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    This is the part of Canada that aligns with american usa policies, for the most part. As a Canadian I’m embarrassed. As a human being the useless deaths piss me off but human life is cheap nowadays I guess.

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    Anyone have a link to a data piece that highlights demographic info about the infected population?

    I’m curious to see if the low vaccination rate / infection rates are primarily amongst an unvaccinated religious group, recent immigrants (who may’ve come from countries with lower vaccination rates), etc. With our population growth being entirely driven through immigration – like even with the scale back lately, it’s still 92% of our population growth – source countries/cultures may matter.

    Canada usually has absurd amounts of demographic info easily available, but my little bit of googling turned up nothing on this one, other than articles saying there’s no data…

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      Ontario has lower vac rates and is leading the charge, but let’s insult the people with dying grass instead of the ones with the dead yard I guess.

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        Only because Ontario is bigger; but don’t worry, Ford can suck just as much as Smith, they are both awful and, if we lived in a just society, they would both be in jail by now.

        https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2025/07/07/Danielle-Smith-Queen-Measles/

        Worst by far in North America

        Talbot placed Alberta’s shocking measles numbers in perspective. They are the worst in Canada and North America. Even by global standards they are appallingly poor. “We’re at around 200 cases per million population,” he said.

        Ontario’s total number of cases, 2,223, is higher than Alberta’s. But Canada’s largest province “has been battling measles longer and has a bigger population of about 137 per million,” said Talbot. “So we are by far the second worst in terms of total numbers in the country and the worst in terms of rate per million.”

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          The tyhee LOL Doesn’t Talbot have some bone to pick with Smith? I was going to look but not going down that rabbit hole… I just read that article and there was no proof for any of those accusations. I thought there would be some tabular data for those numbers but nope. Just pulled out of the air, all the links in there just go to CBC and other propaganda. Also lots of excuses of WHY ON is higher like they have been “Fighting Measles Longer” 🤣 good one Talbot. I guess they aren’t doing a very good job if the numbers are rising… gotta Get those VAX NUMBERS UP Dougie. When it comes to a disease like this Per Capita don’t mean shit it is the NUMBER OF CASES, you want that down to ZERO.

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            I was going to look but not going down that rabbit hole…

            yeap, putting your head in the sand is a common strategy for people like you

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              Like posting a whole article with no source for any of the Shit that is posted in it because that’s all it is. I mean where is this wing nut getting these numbers from? And what benefit would it have for me to look up that info at this time. Other than to prove that she has a bone to pick because Smith did she fire her?

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    She’s not a journalist, she’s a rage bait social media personality. Find a better source for news.

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      Will you shut up about her? Why don’t you just admit it that you’re a mysogynist that can’t stand it when a female journalist does her job of calling out the lies and bullshit from our gouvernents, especially when it doesn’t fit your narrative.

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        If that is Rachel Gilmores rant she is bat shit crazy and about as much a journalist as I am.

        God what an annoying bitch.

        Immigration Stats

        I have already mentioned this earlier so I will be short here. We have let in LARGE numbers of Indian immigrants they are not required to have MMR vaccines. MMR is also an issue in India and so on… see other post…

        This was not in other post… Canadians traveling abroad can be exposed to measles in a wide range of countries where the disease is still endemic or experiencing outbreaks. Countries specifically identified by public health agencies as having significant measles outbreaks include those in Europe, the Middle East, Africa, and Asia, as well as other parts of the Americas. Specific countries mentioned in reports include:

        -India and Pakistan

        -Mexico

        -United States (due to local outbreaks in under-vaccinated communities)

        -Various European nations

        -Philippines, Indonesia, Yemen, and Nigeria

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          So immigrants are the cause for the measles outbreak in Canada huh? Especially the brown ones from India? That what you’re saying?

          Do you know how racist that sounds?

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            Did you read my first post? I Guess not, if you had you could have shut the hell up and not posted this. Yes they are a part of it as well as the anti vaxers. Nice to see the liberal here with the Racist Battle cry. Get Fucked Bitch

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        Lol. It’s rage bait social media bullshit. If you want journalism, go read from many of the excellent journalists who actually do thorough journalism, they come from a wide variety of genders.

        But you know what they’re not? Half cocked rage bait designed to get clicks.

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          Just because someone is on Tiktok or Instagram or any other social media doesn’t delegitimize them.

          She was a reporter for the CBC, press release journalist who worked in the actual parliament to report on things like bills, laws, debates and budgets. She also had a fact check segment on CBC. But the Conservatives got tired of all their lies and bullshit being revealed and called out and put pressure on the last Trudeau minority government to get her canned.

          Just because she sounds pissed off, and rightly so, doesn’t delegitimize her arguments either. Everyone should be pissed off. It’s not rage bait when the facts are so fucking outrageous.

          And what other media should we turn to? She’s an independent journalist. Every other news media is either owned by a conservative fascist media baron or backed by one. She’s as real as it gets.

          And you should get with the times, old man, people get their news from social media now. Get with it.

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            Just because she sounds pissed off, and rightly so, doesn’t delegitimize her arguments either. Everyone should be pissed off. It’s not rage bait when the facts are so fucking outrageous.

            Lol, the “facts” … You mean the ones you get from her rage bait? I see no logical reasoning flaw there.

            And what other media should we turn to? She’s an independent journalist. Every other news media is either owned by a conservative fascist media baron or backed by one. She’s as real as it gets.

            No. She’s not. She’s social media rage bait. She is driven by what gets clicks, which is driven by social media algorithms, and she gets paid through advertising that is based on clicks. She is independent in that she has no editor, that is clear. She’s not independent in the sense of being separate from corporate advertising pressures.

            And you should get with the times, old man, people get their news from social media now. Get with it.

            Yeah, people used to get thereir news from cable TV and people told them not to then too. Congratulations on putting in the lowest effort possible and becoming half informed by what gets you angry. You’re an advertiser’s wet dream.

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              She’s driven by wha gets clicks

              And other medias don’t? Get real.

              informed by what gets you angry

              Aren’t you angry at the news in general these days? Beween the Palestinian holocaust caused by Israel and the UAE’s genocide in Sudan, American politics, MAGA, ICE, the general push of western society towards fascism in general, the collapse of Canadian society through restritive costs of living and the constant degradaion of our social services through attrition for the past 20+ years by conservative and neo-liberal politics, there’s plenty to be unfuriated about.

              She’s not rage baiting, she’s just stating facts.

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                What did the UAE DO now? She wouldn’t know a fact if it slapped her across the face. She was Fact Checker for CTV for a short while 🤣 during the last election and did such a horrible job she was fired because of so many complaints. 🤣

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                The news has always been shit. You’re not angry because of the news, you’re angry because anger keeps people on social media longer and gets more ad dollars.