Let’s say zero is straight up shutting your ears, going lalala and storming out of the room, let’s say 10 is sitting down with a Nazi, genuinely making an effort to see things from their point of view just to see if you could.
Sure this may sound ridiculous but it’s basic knowledge that studying your opponents viewpoints is the best way to counter them and get new insight yourself.
Me? Id like to think I’m a 6, I don’t cut family ties over their political opinions but I’m very likely to shut that down with a “I don’t want to speak politics with you”
Lemmy can be an echo chamber sometimes, but that doesn’t mean everyone here is a mindless zombie, how do you all deal with others who believe differently? Can you back it up?
10 and 1 simultaneously. I’ll sit down. I’ll talk politics with damn near nazis. But I’ll also understand they’re disgusting, their viewpoints are formed through pure idiocy. It can be simultaneously very informing and infuriating to get an understanding of how they come about their viewpoints. Same applies to much less extreme examples as well
No offense but it sounds like your are completely at a 1, if you only see idiocy then I don’t see understanding at all.
More like fear
… You think nazis aren’t idiots? Lol. I see you don’t have any actual understanding.
Never said Nazis were right. I said calling anyone an idiot isn’t understanding, it’s lazy. People don’t just wake up evil; they get shaped by fear, ignorance, and propaganda. Pretending it’s just about “stupidity” is how you avoid learning from History
It’s the truth. These people wake up, and they choose to hate. They chose ignorance. They willfully and intentionally choose it. We don’t live in the 1700s. Information to disprove themselves is readily available. Or if they had basic critical thinking skills
Perhaps I phrased it poorly. But their opinions are only formed because they’re stupid, through extra propaganda and hate. They’re not opinions someone who actually cared about others can have.
This is delusional, but it is popular, you sir, have no ability for empathy for your enemies.
Pray tell, why do you think people become nazis then?
I’ve already told you. Fear, the one emotion that overrides logic. You can’t call someone stupid for falling into an ideology they were raised around, fed by fear and propaganda. It’s not intelligence that fails first, it’s empathy., and you sure, have failed intelligence. Some day far in the future your take that seems so logical to you will be labeled as barbaric and idiotic. I bet you.
Can and will. If they were smart, they wouldn’t take what they’re told unquestioningly at face value. Fear does not wholly override logic. Overcoming instinct is what makes a human human