do with think its ok for kids to take HRT? kids mean anyone under 18 btw. and im not saying they can’t be transgender, i support them being trans 100%, just don’t know if its harmful to take HRT before being an adult.
The main issue here is that to be an adult, you have to go through puberty.
The problem is that HRT is meant to replace one’s expected puberty with the opposite puberty.
So for “best results” you have to start HRT induced/regulated puberty before the expected puberty starts.
Starting HRT after puberty does not reverse the effects of the puberty one has undergone, hence the focus on puberty blockers and starting before puberty.
Starting before puberty starts means starting when they are literally biological kids.
This is where the conflict is. Should literal kids undergo HRT puberty or should they go through their expected puberty, become an adult, and then gain the mental capacity and autonomy to make the decision to undergo HRT but without meeting desired results.
Some say use puberty blockers until 18 and then allow people to make a decision. I disagree, the number of times the Earth goes around the Sun does not turn a child into a consenting adult, puberty does.
The ask is to have consent with the weight of post-puberty but express it while in pre-puberty for a decision on puberty.
I disagree that this is possible. It looks like these MPs disagree as well.
HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) is not some unnatural medication treatment. It’s literally just estrogen or testosterone depending on which gender is being transitioned to. Everyone has testosterone and estrogen. Kids go through puberty as a normal part of growing up.
Typical puberty is not dangerous and HRT causes the same kind of puberty meaning it’s not dangerous
HRT induced puberty is the exact same as typical puberty.
Gender dysphoria is being removed as a diagnosis so external diagnosis by a doc and prescription based on said diagnosis cannot be done.
And the child in question consents, not the parent.
The way medicine has legally operated is not reflected in transition.
If transition was possible without medical aid, it would be different. But it is not possible for humans to physically transition, unlike other species who can.
Ok so the question I replied to was essentially is it safe for kids under 18. The answer is yes.
In terms of consent. Kids cannot just consent and then be given HRT. Parents of kids cannot just consent and then have their kids put on HRT. Doctors cannot just consent and put kids on HRT.
There is a process in which kids are thoroughly assessed and then with parental consent put on puberty blockers for 1-2 years maximum. Puberty blockers are not HRT to be clear. They are also safe and the kids are monitored by doctors and have regular check ups and psychiatric evaluations.
If the children persist by the end of the 1-2 year observation period they are then, with consent from all parties put onto HRT.
The whole process is very thorough to ensure that kids who aren’t actually trans don’t get put on HRT. Consent by the parents, kids and doctors is required throughout the entire process.
This isn’t simple self report and get medicated it is a very thorough process.
Please do a basic google search. This info isn’t difficult to find.
do with think its ok for kids to take HRT? kids mean anyone under 18 btw. and im not saying they can’t be transgender, i support them being trans 100%, just don’t know if its harmful to take HRT before being an adult.
From, I don’t know, 14+? 16+? Sure? By the time we start to recognize children’s medical autonomy, I can’t imagine why we would t
The main issue here is that to be an adult, you have to go through puberty.
The problem is that HRT is meant to replace one’s expected puberty with the opposite puberty.
So for “best results” you have to start HRT induced/regulated puberty before the expected puberty starts.
Starting HRT after puberty does not reverse the effects of the puberty one has undergone, hence the focus on puberty blockers and starting before puberty.
Starting before puberty starts means starting when they are literally biological kids.
This is where the conflict is. Should literal kids undergo HRT puberty or should they go through their expected puberty, become an adult, and then gain the mental capacity and autonomy to make the decision to undergo HRT but without meeting desired results.
Some say use puberty blockers until 18 and then allow people to make a decision. I disagree, the number of times the Earth goes around the Sun does not turn a child into a consenting adult, puberty does.
The ask is to have consent with the weight of post-puberty but express it while in pre-puberty for a decision on puberty.
I disagree that this is possible. It looks like these MPs disagree as well.
HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy) is not some unnatural medication treatment. It’s literally just estrogen or testosterone depending on which gender is being transitioned to. Everyone has testosterone and estrogen. Kids go through puberty as a normal part of growing up.
Typical puberty is not dangerous and HRT causes the same kind of puberty meaning it’s not dangerous
HRT induced puberty is the exact same as typical puberty.
I think the main question is consent, who is consenting and the legality of it along with liability.
The question is a legal question and what is consent along with what is the responsiblity or liability of the doctor.
Typical medicines are not natural, but are legal because the consenting party is the adult on behalf of the child and recommended by the doctor.
For medicine, diagnosis and treatment are done determined by external actors.
Feel unwell -> cause determined from outside perspective -> solution prescribed from external perspective -> feed back from patient.
I think for HRT, it’s more murky legally. For transition it’s more self reported.
Feel unwell -> self diagnosis -> self prescription -> reporting to oneself
Gender dysphoria is being removed as a diagnosis so external diagnosis by a doc and prescription based on said diagnosis cannot be done.
And the child in question consents, not the parent.
The way medicine has legally operated is not reflected in transition.
If transition was possible without medical aid, it would be different. But it is not possible for humans to physically transition, unlike other species who can.
Ok so the question I replied to was essentially is it safe for kids under 18. The answer is yes.
In terms of consent. Kids cannot just consent and then be given HRT. Parents of kids cannot just consent and then have their kids put on HRT. Doctors cannot just consent and put kids on HRT.
There is a process in which kids are thoroughly assessed and then with parental consent put on puberty blockers for 1-2 years maximum. Puberty blockers are not HRT to be clear. They are also safe and the kids are monitored by doctors and have regular check ups and psychiatric evaluations. If the children persist by the end of the 1-2 year observation period they are then, with consent from all parties put onto HRT.
The whole process is very thorough to ensure that kids who aren’t actually trans don’t get put on HRT. Consent by the parents, kids and doctors is required throughout the entire process.
This isn’t simple self report and get medicated it is a very thorough process.
Please do a basic google search. This info isn’t difficult to find.