• arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    TBH I would consider one of these. I’ve been thinking about using discs for long-term backups, and I’ve also been planning to start buying music and stuff more instead of effectively renting from streaming services.

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      19 hours ago

      Most writable disks have a poor life. the only good long term backup option is lots of redundancy and regular check that they are all readable - recreating what isn’t before you lose it

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          19 hours ago

          That’s a good start, but the most effective backup is manually carving the binary contents of a file onto steel plates that are many miles long.

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            19 hours ago

            Honestly I just go for redundant drives and 3-2-1 backups, I remember looking at those pioneer bluray discs when they were announced and quickly deciding it wasn’t worth the cost.
            Your steel plate backup system sounds intriguing though - maybe it can be used as wallpaper? “What’s that on your walls?” “My wedding photos”

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              19 hours ago

              The great part of that idea is that no one will think you’re crazy when they see painstakingly carved rows of binary covering every surface of your home.

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                6 hours ago

                Will they know it’s binary? Surely the dots would be so small it looks like noise unless there’s an emerging pattern from file headers etc

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        15 hours ago

        As someone else mentioned, CDs, DVDs, and especially BDs are supposed to last quite a while. I’d obviously burn more than one though and check them occasionally (and probably throw most of it on encrypted cloud storage in case there’s a fire or something).

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          16 hours ago

          I recently found some cheap CDs and DVDs that I backed my stuff up on 17 years ago and the data was pristine 👌

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        19 hours ago

        CDs are rated for 10–30 years, Blurays for 50–80. YMMV with cheap low quality disks, of course.

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      17 hours ago

      I’ve looked pretty extensively into this. My plan is to get a disk toaster and pick up some refurb drives, around 8tb or so. The cost of a good bluray burner is about $160, and each 100yr disc is $11 for 50gb. Meanwhile the toaster is $30, and HDDs are about $150 new for 8tb, less with refurbs. I just know that one coaster run of a bluray burn would send me off to a tirade. Less space, less cost, less risk of damage, and more likely to be useable in the future. Bonus for read speeds and rewrite ability.

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        17 hours ago

        I think if you’ve got a ton of data, that does make more sense. I personally don’t think I have much that I think is super important though (at the least atm, it’d mostly be photos). The drives will likely die earlier though.

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          16 hours ago

          My photos rest on my 8tb WD Pro NAS drive, and OMV does a backup on another smaller 2TB drive. I also have an external 2TB for occasional extra backups. I plan on converting all my dvdr and cdrs into hdd data. Sadly, a bunch of my cdrs are kaput, rotted and falling apart. I never realized how important it was to buy burnable media that uses chemicals instead of organic dyes. I guess I just assumed 15yrs ago it was all chemical.

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      20 hours ago

      Wouldn’t it better to buy a BD/DVD drive for desktop? This way you can rip movies/music and access them on any device.

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        20 hours ago

        I mean, I’d still have the physical collection then, which would just be sitting there picking up dust. Even with it ripped, I’d probably still want to use the disc sometimes. I also tend to displace things like CD drives if I don’t use them for a while lol (I have a CD/DVD drive somewhere, but I have no idea where I put it), which makes the backup idea sort of problematic.