Despite media scrutiny and attacks on his character, progressive Senate candidate Graham Platner continues to gain support in Maine, with 58% of voters backing him. His platform focuses on making life more affordable, shifting the Democratic Party away from corporate interests, and ensuring the wealthy pay their fair share. #GrahamPlatner
Four tours, as a veteran, like… I’m not excusing it, but some of the most anti-fascist people I know did multiple tours. I saw the writing on the wall and didn’t re-enlist but everyone’s situation and place that they are is different.
Of the people who have done several orders of magnitude more work to stop fascism, real, physical, on the ground work, all of them are military service members who saw active duty. One did two tours, and was at Falluja, and another had his humvee blown up from underneath him when command told his company to go drive a road they knew for a fact had IED’s. One went on to be a DJ (actually he might do lighting idk), the other became a nurse and worked directly with Dr. Faucci at the CDC. Both were raised extremely conservative, and because they were given an opportunity to become a person they actually wanted to be, they changed.
Yeah I basically agree with you here about your comrades based on the information you have given me, but the thing is you’re implicitly conditioning your judgement of your comrades on their behavior after their K tours, I was implicitly (and now explicitly) conditioning my judgement about Platner on his four tours and Blackwater employment plus his behavior after that. Like I know people can change, IMO that is the thesis of my worldview, but Platner has not provided sufficient evidence that he has changed for the better. Furthermore, someone doing K > 1 tours is not just an ordinary evil thing, it’s an incredibly evil thing, so forgive me if it takes a lot lot lot of good to be done before I start to consider their debt to humanity paid off.
Furthermore, someone doing K > 1 tours is not just an ordinary evil thing, it’s an incredibly evil thing, so forgive me if it takes a lot lot lot of good to be done before I start to consider their debt to humanity paid off.
Four tours, as a veteran, like… I’m not excusing it, but some of the most anti-fascist people I know did multiple tours. I saw the writing on the wall and didn’t re-enlist but everyone’s situation and place that they are is different.
Of the people who have done several orders of magnitude more work to stop fascism, real, physical, on the ground work, all of them are military service members who saw active duty. One did two tours, and was at Falluja, and another had his humvee blown up from underneath him when command told his company to go drive a road they knew for a fact had IED’s. One went on to be a DJ (actually he might do lighting idk), the other became a nurse and worked directly with Dr. Faucci at the CDC. Both were raised extremely conservative, and because they were given an opportunity to become a person they actually wanted to be, they changed.
Yeah I basically agree with you here about your comrades based on the information you have given me, but the thing is you’re implicitly conditioning your judgement of your comrades on their behavior after their K tours, I was implicitly (and now explicitly) conditioning my judgement about Platner on his four tours and Blackwater employment plus his behavior after that. Like I know people can change, IMO that is the thesis of my worldview, but Platner has not provided sufficient evidence that he has changed for the better. Furthermore, someone doing K > 1 tours is not just an ordinary evil thing, it’s an incredibly evil thing, so forgive me if it takes a lot lot lot of good to be done before I start to consider their debt to humanity paid off.
And thats totally fair.