My aunt has lived with two pitbulls for almost a decade now. Raised two small children in the same home. Nothing but sweethearts. Dogs are individuals, just like people. Just like having another person around your baby, you need to be responsible with any dog breed.
What’s the margin? Where do we draw the line between breeds that are okay to allow to reproduce and which aren’t? Pitbulls are statistically very safe, as all dogs are, when treated and trained well. If we banned everything with similar levels of risk of injury or death as pitbulls, we’d have to ban a LOT. Let’s start with guns, cars, and hell, why not smoking and drinking for legal guardians of children, too. In-ground swimming pools can go, and let’s revamp electrical outlets.
Obviously, it’s a sliding scale of propensity, probability, and likelihood, as you said, but pitbulls are much lower on that scale. Just as with everything else on that list, the risk of harm to others, especially children, falls on the responsibility of the owner. This isn’t to say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people,” as obviously guns enable easily killing many people quickly, but rather to contrast the realistic risk to family and community. Pitbulls have been excessively demonized for their relative risk. I can’t take anyone calling for pitbull bans seriously unless they believe in authoritatively banning all the other aspects of our lives that pose similar levels of risk to ourselves and others.
youre not going to get anybody to see the nuance. all pits bad 100%. even the good pits just didnt smell a good tasty kid yet. and the ones that did are just waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. and also dont forget the racism involved with hating pit bulls
The nuance is that tons of “well trained” “family dog” pitbulls “that wouldn’t hurt a fly” end up mauling someone to death because of their physical characteristics.
so youre basing this on anecdotal evidence. got it. racism always has something to do with nearly everything. you think reporting on this (which i presume is what fuels your anecdotal evidence) is unaffected by race?
My aunt has lived with two pitbulls for almost a decade now. Raised two small children in the same home. Nothing but sweethearts. Dogs are individuals, just like people. Just like having another person around your baby, you need to be responsible with any dog breed.
You don’t want to know how many “family dogs” like your aunts end up mauling people to death.
Every single one of them said their dogs were sweethearts and would never hurt fly. Now they are dead.
It’s about propensity, probability, likelihood, etc.
What’s the margin? Where do we draw the line between breeds that are okay to allow to reproduce and which aren’t? Pitbulls are statistically very safe, as all dogs are, when treated and trained well. If we banned everything with similar levels of risk of injury or death as pitbulls, we’d have to ban a LOT. Let’s start with guns, cars, and hell, why not smoking and drinking for legal guardians of children, too. In-ground swimming pools can go, and let’s revamp electrical outlets.
Obviously, it’s a sliding scale of propensity, probability, and likelihood, as you said, but pitbulls are much lower on that scale. Just as with everything else on that list, the risk of harm to others, especially children, falls on the responsibility of the owner. This isn’t to say “guns don’t kill people, people kill people,” as obviously guns enable easily killing many people quickly, but rather to contrast the realistic risk to family and community. Pitbulls have been excessively demonized for their relative risk. I can’t take anyone calling for pitbull bans seriously unless they believe in authoritatively banning all the other aspects of our lives that pose similar levels of risk to ourselves and others.
You ask questions then rule out any answer* so I guess we’re done .
(*technically unless it meets x y z.)
I would love to hear the argument for banning pitbulls despite being less risky than other commonly accepted risks.
In a hypothetical situation where every dog breed is banned except for Chihuahuas.
Would the amount of dog mauling be more, less or equal than how it is now?
If you say anything other than “equal” you agree that the breed is an aspect.
Those other risks are probably a lot more important to society than owning a specific breed of pet.
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youre not going to get anybody to see the nuance. all pits bad 100%. even the good pits just didnt smell a good tasty kid yet. and the ones that did are just waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. and also dont forget the racism involved with hating pit bulls
The nuance is that tons of “well trained” “family dog” pitbulls “that wouldn’t hurt a fly” end up mauling someone to death because of their physical characteristics.
Racism has nothing to do with it.
so youre basing this on anecdotal evidence. got it. racism always has something to do with nearly everything. you think reporting on this (which i presume is what fuels your anecdotal evidence) is unaffected by race?