• AliSaket@mander.xyz
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    The first offer from Hamas to let go all the hostages to Israel was on the 09.10.2023. The Israeli government rejected it then and has rejected it ever since: https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-doubt-netanyahu-preventing-hostage-deal-charges-ex-spokesman-of-families-forum/

    In fact, Hamas has stated that they are not interested in any future government in Gaza about a year ago and instead wanted a Palestinian technocratic body to take over. You know what happened? Israel murdered the diplomatic leadership of Hamas in November 2024. And then Israel and the US came out and said, that they had no one to negotiate with. And just a few weeks ago, they tried the same.

    In negotiations early this year with Witkoff and others, Hamas even put this in writing - again with the offer of releasing all the hostages - contingent on a stop of Israeli aggression, the continuation of humanitarian aid and the Israeli troops to withdraw from the strip. That treaty was then changed by the US and Israel in May this year before it was rejected.

    This has been modus operandi from the beginning from the US and Israel. After they had a deal, change it, make it look as if Hamas is rejecting the deal and capitalize on it. In fact, if you go back in history, you’ll find the same strategy over and over again, to make it look like “Palestinians rejected peace”.

    And last but not least: You are telling people to lay down their weapons, that have been under a brutal siege for over two years, while ignoring the side that put in place the siege and genocidal aggression.

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        Yes indeed, that’s true. The difference is that now, they don’t even want to be part of a future “unity government” like in 2014. The only thing they demand now is that the government body consist of Palestinians. Or in other words: Palestinian self-determination.

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        9 hours ago

        Israel expecting no aggression after kidnapping thousands of civilians and enforcing an illegal blockade, and stealing land is ridiculous

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        Netanyahu has literally given interviews about how he and Israel have financially supported Hama’s as controlled opposition.

        Israel is also the size of New jersey (for Americans) or Slovenia. It is tiny. It is a 6 hour drive or an hour by helicopter. The Israel extreme militarized state, with tons of vehicles and helicopters, didn’t react at all to an attack where sponsered money bought weapons 10 hours later, when there were 2000 people against 169500 active members and 465000 in reserve.

        Then when specifically asked if there was an order to the IDF to stand down and not repel the attackers, Israeli leaders have refused to deny it.

        Israel with 80000% larger military not reacting at all for 10 hours is ridiculous.

        By the way, Israel has had over 1900 Palestinian hostages for a decade not charged or tried at all for supposed crimes including up to 1000 children that they rape with dogs and IDF soldiers, abuse, and torture daily.