maybe if you knew history and not propaganda or even knew math…
canada was a country only since July 1, 1867
canada has only been around for 158 years…
did you know first nations kept slaves until forced to stop in 1790s???
pretty sure indigenous- indigenous relations were not the rose garden you think it was either.
that is why i am going to ignore you. you are uninformed.
Indigenous people also committed genocide. wiped out entire tribes of people. men women and children…
gaza with 70000 dead in two years, 18000 children murdered in two years is a genocide.
go right ahead and point to any time in canadas history where canada killed 25000 unarmed Indigenous people in a year, and i will call it a genocide.
please educate me on genocide.
honest proven numbers of deaths documented, bodies found.
Genocide is legally defined as any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group: killing members of the group, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about physical destruction, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children to another group. This definition is established by the 1948 United Nations Genocide Convention.
Do you deny any of these acts occurred upon the indigenous people of these territories now named Canada by European settlers and their descendants?
how many acts are required? 10 ? 1000? 10000? over how much time? 10 years? 50 years? 1000 years?
do you have documentation that these acts were done with “INTENT TO DESTROY” by an organized group?
i will wait while you gather information.
if it is only 10, or 100 in 100 years, and you dont need to prove intent,then lets look at crime numbers for assaults in BC that where indigenous people attacked others?
let me help you out an indigenous women stabbed 3 people today in Vancouver… was that genocide? or was she acting alone. let me help you out… there is no evidence she was acting as part of a group attacking a different group. so no it was not genocide.
once again your personal viewpoint with zero evidence is just that a viewpoint. for genocide you cannot say that 500 separate individuals operating without an organization collectively committed genocide. if that is the case then every culture is committing genocide against every others ones.
it has to be a collective GROUP, not just people of the same race or same religion by chance.
i am not saying shitty things did not happen. just it was not genocide. not likely organized. church pedophiles are not genocide. nether is abuse.
making unfounded claims is even weaker.
you know what works? document proof with physical evidence.
not word of mouth.
not my daddy told me while he was drinking how hard life was.
and i respect the ones who just do the work and find the proof. which is very very few.
i will even check back
if you or anyone find any real physical evidence of anything feel free to post it.
Residential School Denialism is one of the reasons Indigenous people feel so helpless - because their generational struggles with it make them feel less-than-human; the violence and the destruction of culture was forced upon them, en masse. Hearing people say that it didn’t happen insults and belittles their suffering.
Source: I’m a white guy living in an Indigenous community.
if you want to stop all Residential School Denialism get kamloops to dig up the “anomalies” and see what is there.
if there are bodies. there will be 900% less Residential School Denialism
until then it will look like what is it.
not going to make any effort to prove anything with fact.
where is the outcry of gaza “generational struggles”?when they should be having 10000% more then any Indigenous people in canada. gaza has been bombed for the last 80 years.
every boomer from europe should have “generational struggles” also… where are they??
While I enjoy an intelligent and comprehensive discussion, looking through your dozens of comments in only 3 days, you seem like a very angry conservative with whom there is no discussing anything without my receiving vitriol and hate.
Let’s leave it as your opinion vs my opinion. I’m also blocking you because I don’t need this kind of negativity; it’s why I left Reddit.
This argument probably sounds really good if you completely disregard the past 300 or so years of Canadian-Indigenous relations.
maybe if you knew history and not propaganda or even knew math… canada was a country only since July 1, 1867
canada has only been around for 158 years…
did you know first nations kept slaves until forced to stop in 1790s??? pretty sure indigenous- indigenous relations were not the rose garden you think it was either. that is why i am going to ignore you. you are uninformed.
“Indigenous people fought each other and did bad things, therefore committing a genocide is OK.”
What a lovely & compelling argument.
Also, sorry for assuming you’d be able to recognize that “Canadian” included the history of British and French colonists in what became Canada.
Indigenous people also committed genocide. wiped out entire tribes of people. men women and children…
gaza with 70000 dead in two years, 18000 children murdered in two years is a genocide. go right ahead and point to any time in canadas history where canada killed 25000 unarmed Indigenous people in a year, and i will call it a genocide.
please educate me on genocide. honest proven numbers of deaths documented, bodies found.
here is an example on NOT GENOCIDE. https://www.gi.alaska.edu/alaska-science-forum/village-grave-led-virus-breakthrough
if that was found in canada it would have been called genocide and that would be the story.
LIES.
@Evkob @nutpantz
Do you deny any of these acts occurred upon the indigenous people of these territories now named Canada by European settlers and their descendants?
how many acts are required? 10 ? 1000? 10000? over how much time? 10 years? 50 years? 1000 years?
do you have documentation that these acts were done with “INTENT TO DESTROY” by an organized group?
i will wait while you gather information.
if it is only 10, or 100 in 100 years, and you dont need to prove intent,then lets look at crime numbers for assaults in BC that where indigenous people attacked others?
let me help you out an indigenous women stabbed 3 people today in Vancouver… was that genocide? or was she acting alone. let me help you out… there is no evidence she was acting as part of a group attacking a different group. so no it was not genocide.
once again your personal viewpoint with zero evidence is just that a viewpoint. for genocide you cannot say that 500 separate individuals operating without an organization collectively committed genocide. if that is the case then every culture is committing genocide against every others ones.
it has to be a collective GROUP, not just people of the same race or same religion by chance.
i am not saying shitty things did not happen. just it was not genocide. not likely organized. church pedophiles are not genocide. nether is abuse.
@nutpantz Quite the long rant just to dodge my question.
But not surprised since you’ve been behaving like a bad faith actor throughout this thread.
Stay on point next time.
@nutpantz Using whataboutism to counter valid claims is weak sauce.
making unfounded claims is even weaker.
you know what works? document proof with physical evidence. not word of mouth.
not my daddy told me while he was drinking how hard life was.
but actual proof by actually looking…
https://www.ctvnews.ca/winnipeg/article/no-human-remains-found-in-excavation-of-manitoba-church-basement/
and i respect the ones who just do the work and find the proof. which is very very few.
i will even check back
if you or anyone find any real physical evidence of anything feel free to post it.
Residential School Denialism is one of the reasons Indigenous people feel so helpless - because their generational struggles with it make them feel less-than-human; the violence and the destruction of culture was forced upon them, en masse. Hearing people say that it didn’t happen insults and belittles their suffering.
Source: I’m a white guy living in an Indigenous community.
if you want to stop all Residential School Denialism get kamloops to dig up the “anomalies” and see what is there.
if there are bodies. there will be 900% less Residential School Denialism
until then it will look like what is it. not going to make any effort to prove anything with fact.
where is the outcry of gaza “generational struggles”?when they should be having 10000% more then any Indigenous people in canada. gaza has been bombed for the last 80 years. every boomer from europe should have “generational struggles” also… where are they??
While I enjoy an intelligent and comprehensive discussion, looking through your dozens of comments in only 3 days, you seem like a very angry conservative with whom there is no discussing anything without my receiving vitriol and hate. Let’s leave it as your opinion vs my opinion. I’m also blocking you because I don’t need this kind of negativity; it’s why I left Reddit.
@nutpantz @RivverRavven You’re doing the right thing. People like him just live off hate.
it looks like you are checking my history becasue you dont like actual information that contradicts you.
@nutpantz Nothing like an ass pull to cover your own bias.
It’s telling though.
noting like insults as your only possible reply… when you can say nothing you insult someone… you have nothing.