Hi, I am not exactly sure how best to frame this, but recent events have got me wondering where exactly Framework, as a company, stands with regards to human rights and equality. If I understand correctly (and please do correct me if I am wrong), it seems like Framework has started sponsoring Hyprland: So I presume this is fact: Framework, as a company, has decided to sponsor a Wayland compositor who is well known to be led as a rather “toxic and hateful community”. Separately, but on the ...

Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I’m disappointed in framework’s answer so far

  • bss03@infosec.pubEnglish
    12·
    7 hours ago

    Did the author bother contacting them first before treating them like utter garbage and trying to rile up a public lynch mob?

    Yes, the community.frame.work is the preferred method for asking questions to Framework (see: https://frame.work/support), and the first post makes a few statements about non-Framework persons/projects and Framework has sponsored, and asks one question to Framework.

    So, if you’d read the damn post, you’d know this is exactly how Framework asks to be engaged.

      • bss03@infosec.pubEnglish
        21·
        6 hours ago

        Even in what you quoted, Framework has provided no more preferred communication method for this discussion.

        No, my name is Stephen.

        • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.caEnglish
          53·
          1 hour ago

          https://frame.work/en/en/contact-us

          Because mod or alt mod removed it:

          You mean the post that literally says otherwise and that the quote from OP I had in my original comment agreed with?

          Thanks, I appreciate you also replying in good faith. I don’t think this is likely to be a topic we’ll be able to come to alignment on within a community thread. We’re unfortunately in a world where it’s hard to have nuanced discussion, even if we preemptively agree on 95% of topics and want to discuss the remaining 5%, in a public forum.

          -nrp

          perhaps it is indeed best to let it rest for now. i’ll certainly sleep on it now! :slight_smile:

          -anarcat

          I can’t even imagine the fundamentally flawed view of the world to think the best way to solve an issue like this is to first go through a public forum.

          I’ll excuse the rest of the comment, but check out the modlogs if you want to do so. Guess rule 3 is enforced directionally.

            • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.caEnglish
              11·
              1 hour ago

              I can’t even imagine the fundamentally flawed view of the world to think the best way to solve an issue like this is to first go through a public forum.

              Pretty sure I’ve made my opinion clear. Well, at least before you were offended by a slight comment and tried to and successfully removed the comment with the context. So much for public forums then, huh. The page has a direct way of contacting them through email for more sensitive issues like this, you are the one choosing to skip the option.

              • bss03@infosec.pubEnglish
                1·
                12 minutes ago

                I can’t remove anything. I not a mod or admin of anything throughout the Fediverse. I think I can delete my own posts, but that might (and probably should) leave a deletion log similar to the edit log. (Actually the delete log should just be an edit log that ends with “DELETED”.)

                EDIT: The mod log says the comment violated rule 3. I think the part of your comment using a common name as an indirect insult might have not “be[en] excellent to” me, but that’s just a guess.