I was just looking at another post showing a picture/drawing with north Korean and ruzzian soldiers smiling happy together. OMG I got blind sided by the fellows there. Looks like at least some of the posters were ruzzian and I had no clue. I ended up blocking a few. How can they be so confused as to what reality is?
so did you just decide to comment about that post on whatever next post you saw, or did you pick this one for any reason in particular?
Yeah I’m confused.
- Israel is evil now
- bad people do or did live in Gaza but Innocent people should not be sacrificed.
- ruzzia is an asshole doing the same to Ukraine.
But…there the ruzzians also think Israel is evil? At least the ones on that post. So I’m just confused.
People who defend themselves from foreign invaders are bad?
Are you:
- Inebriated and confused
- A victim of what seems to be a fediverse bug that has cropped up in the past 2 days or so where comments are ending up in completely the wrong place
- the worst propaganda redirection bot ever programmed/hired
Those people were almost as confused as me with respect to Palestine/Gaza.
Me, I’m with Gretta. Israel is demolish the Gaza strip along with its people regardless of who they may be. It’s just awful.
Meanwhile the people in the other post appear to also think that Israel should stop murdering innocent people… But Russia should own Ukraine. WTF. Just confused.
I can’t get through the huge pop up, has anybody have a transcript of the news?
While confirming that she and other Global Sumud Flotilla members were abused by Israeli forces who abducted and jailed them, Swedish climate and human rights activist Greta Thunberg on Monday implored humanity to focus on the genocide in Gaza as it enters its third year.
“I could talk for a very, very long time about our mistreatment and abuses in our imprisonment. Trust me, but that is not the story,” Thunberg said during a press conference at Athens Eleftherios Venizelos International Airport in Greece, where she and other flotilla participants released by Israel were greeted by a cheering crowd.
“What happened here is that Israel, while continuing to worsen and escalate their genocide and mass destruction with genocidal intent, attempting to erase an entire population, an entire nation in front of our very eyes, they once again violated international law by preventing humanitarian aid from getting into Gaza while people are being starved,” she continued.
“This genocide and other genocides are being enabled and fueled by our own governments, our institutions, our media, and companies. It is our responsibility to end that complicity… to use our privileges, our platforms, to take a stance against this, that is in every way unjustifiable,” Thunberg asserted.
“I will never, ever comprehend how humans can be so evil that you would deliberately starve millions of people living trapped under an illegal siege as a continuation of decades and decades of suffocating oppression, apartheid, occupation,” she added.
Thunberg’s remarks came as Israeli forced continued their bombing and invasion of Gaza with the objective of conquering, occupying, and ethnically cleansing Palestinians from the strip. Israeli airstrikes—which have reportedly killed nearly 100 Palestinians over the past two days—continued despite US President Donald Trump’s Friday exhortation to “immediately stop” bombing the embattled strip, citing Hamas’ willingness to conditionally release the remaining Israeli and other hostages it has held since October 7, 2023.
Trump urged negotiators to “move fast” toward a ceasefire agreement ahead of Monday’s indirect peace talks between Israel and Hamas in Egypt.
Since launching the assault and “complete siege” of Gaza following the October 7, 2023 Hamas-led attack, Israeli forces have killed at least 67,139 Palestinians, according to the Gaza Health Ministry—whose figures are widely believed to be a vast undercount. Most of those killed have been women and children.
Over 169,500 Palestinians have also been wounded in Gaza and thousands more are missing and presumed dead and buried beneath rubble. Most of Gaza’s more than 2 million people have also been forcibly displaced, often multiple times, while hundreds of thousands of others are starving in an engineered famine that officials say has killed at least 460 people.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant are wanted by the International Criminal Court in The Hague for alleged crimes against humanity and war crimes in Gaza including murder and forced starvation. Just under two miles away at the International Court of Justice, tribunal members are weighing a genocide case against Israel brought by South Africa and supported by around two dozen nations and regional blocs.
Thunberg and more than 400 other Global Sumud Flotilla members were intercepted last week by Israeli forces in international waters before being taken to Israel and jailed. Thunberg told Swedish officials Saturday that she had been “subjected to harsh treatment in Israeli custody.”
“She informed of dehydration," a Swedish Foreign Ministry email noted. "She has received insufficient amounts of both water and food. She also stated that she had developed rashes which she suspects were caused by bedbugs. She spoke of harsh treatment and said she had been sitting for long periods on hard surfaces.”
Turkish flotilla activist Ersin Çelik said he witnessed Israelis abusing Thunberg.
“They dragged little Greta by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag,” Çelik said. “They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others.”
Italian journalist and flotilla member Lorenzo D’Agostino said that Thunberg was “wrapped in the Israeli flag and paraded like a trophy.”
Abducted flotilla members said they were humiliated by Israelis, including National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who called them “terrorists.” This, from a man who in 2007 was convicted of incitement to racism and supporting the Kahanist terrorist group Kach.
D’Agostino told CNN Monday that “we were shocked by the level of humiliation and gratuitous cruelty that these people used on us."
"The way we were treated was… pushing the mistreatment and the humiliation to the limit that they could afford,” he said, explaining that his captors “knew that they couldn’t harm us physically” if activists were from countries like Italy.
“I was sharing my cell with a Turkish citizen whose arm was broken and he was left without painkillers for two days.”
“People coming from countries that are not allied [with Israel] were harmed physically,” D’Agostino added. “I was sharing my cell with a Turkish citizen whose arm was broken and he was left without painkillers for two days.”
Israel’s Foreign Ministry said Sunday that flotilla members’ claims of abuse are “brazen lies,” and that “all the detainees’ legal rights are fully upheld.”
As of Monday, Israel had deported 341 of the 479 detained flotilla activists. The remaining detainees are either awaiting deportation or, in some cases—including one Spanish woman who allegedly bit an Israeli medic during a forced medical examination at Ketziot Prison—are facing extended detention.
The alleged abuse of flotilla detainees pales in comparison to what Palestinian prisoners have allegedly endured at the hands of their Israeli captors. Former detainees and Israeli personnel have described beatings, rape and sexual torture by male and female soldiers, routine amputations due to constant shackling, burnings, electrocutions, attacks by dogs, ice-water dousings, denial of food and water, sleep deprivation, constant loud music, and other abuse.
The Israeli military has launched investigations into the deaths of dozens of detainees at the notorious Sde Teiman prison, including one who died after allegedly being sodomized with an electric baton.
Another group of boats is currently en route from Europe in another attempt to break Israel’s blockade of Gaza.
“As more ships set sail for Gaza, we are likely to see a repeat of these events,” Amnesty International said Monday, referring to the alleged abuse of Global Sumud Flotilla activists. “States must act now and make clear to Israel that its suffocating blockade and its ongoing genocide against Palestinians must end now.”
She’s an hero, that’s she.
If only people cared for their own countries and people as they did foreign ones
Yes, that’s the problem with the world: people aren’t Nationalistic enough.
The general populace of the US and UK ignoring horrendous foreign policy is what enabled this genocide in the first place.
Those will get told: if you don’t like it, leave!
“I’m insufferable, and always questioning if people like me, because deep down I don’t like myself. I must justify my isolation in both my community and myself by pretending that it is both the right way to live both as an individual and a community, because to acknowledge otherwise makes all the dark thoughts I thought I got rid of swell up out of my control. I am very smart.” - you
Makes sense, Israel has gone way too far in Gaza.
You were okay with apartheid and ethnic cleansing, but draw the line at genocide?
Please expand.
how’s life under your rock? I’m assuming ignorance like that is peaceful
Maube read my follow up comment, heh.
No
… are you having trouble opening your eyes? You have to ask your eyelids politely?
The original message makes it sounds like somehow before two years ago everything was fine with Gaza. That what Israel was doing in the 78 years prior to that was no issue. I want OP to expand on his or her thoughts.
Israel hasn’t “gone too far” now… Israel was already going to far before that. If fast genocide was your redline as opposed to slower territorial expansion, seige warfare, and occupation… Yeah you’re the reasonthis they’ve had free reign to take the situation to it’s current inevitable consequence.
My bad. “Please expand” to me sounds like you’re asking how they’ve gone too far in a possibly disbelieving manner similar to asking for a source.
You have to understand that not everyone was/is aware Israel’s doings. The media in the west has always supported Israel, so you never heard anything negative about them. You cannot blame someone who could have had no prior knowledge of it and tell them they are the reason Israel had free reign, that’s crazy talk. Anyone standing against what they are doing now or in the past is a good thing.
Did you even know until the last couple years? Until the attack happened?
If so, why weren’t you being vocal and active about it? I could flip it on the head and say you are the reason Israel have had this free reign, because you knew and didn’t tell us. See how dumb that sounds?
Did you even know until the last couple years? Until the attack happened?
As a moderately informed person, yes I’ve been aware of this for decades.
And yes, thank you, I have been vocal and active since. How about you?
So informed, yet so blind. You completely missed the point.
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Why did people stop liking her?
Basically because she was a child and their egos were hurt that a child would dare to criticize them.
Older people didn’t like a kid telling them they destroyed the world through selfish ideals.
Propaganda.
i’ve been liking her more each time i heard of and from her. she has been and is an inspirational young woman, worthy of much more praise than i have time for now. i especially applaud her uncompromising outspokenness on the issues of the modern world, most of which are present and evident in Gaza/Palestine. i think i remember she confirmed that her personal focus has shifted from environmentalism to dismantling capitalism, and i think taking her reknown globally and using it to expose the absolute depravity of the zionist establishment is vital work. everyone should be more like greta.
She’s a smart and pragmatic woman. Capitalism is the root cause of most of the world’s problems.
indeed. i hope more would come to this conclusion faster, i don’t think the ecological catastrophe is going to be kinder to humans the longer we fuck with capitalism. things are only going to get worse.
