• nagaram@startrek.website
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    3 days ago

    Genuine question for an OOTL guy

    Is Milei actually a fascist and why?

    I just genuinely haven’t kept up with him I knew he was a pretty serious libertarian cut all the government subsidy type, but I didn’t think he was a fascist.

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      Milei is the guy who gave Elon Musk his novelty chainsaw. Fascism isn’t an ideology in the traditional sense, and when a fascist-adjacent government actually becomes fascist is an exercise in individual discernment. Perhaps fascism is best described as a spectrum, and in that framing, Milei is pretty fascist. WSWS isn’t wrong – calling someone with significant fascist qualities who seeks out fascist allies a ‘fascist’ seems like a reasonable use of language.

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        Great read and good points by you.

        That’s a fair read and I had kinda come to that thought process. He’s a friend of Trumps and I guess Musk as well. So he’s okay with fascists.

        But I do want to point out that in the linked article, he talks about a guy, Franchi, who received support from Communists and presumably the UK while resisting Mussolini but was a monarchist who fell into right wing activities after the war and was charged for plotting a pro monarchy court d’etat.

        Much like how I don’t condemn small African anti colonial governments for taking Russian assistance. I don’t immediately view a struggling Small Pro Capitalist state taking USA assistance as inherently condemn able.

        I don’t know Milei’s full views, but I struggle to have “guy who’s rounding up all the racial undesirables and occupying cities with troops” on the same level as “guy who thinks letting companies pay in milk is good”. Both are dangerous and bad ideas, but one is much MUCH worse in my opinion.

        If I’m missing something, I’m genuinely down to learn more. These are just my concerns with my limited understanding.

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        Great read and good points by you.

        That’s a fair read and I had kinda come to that thought process. He’s a friend of Trumps and I guess Musk as well. So he’s okay with fascists.

        But I do want to point out that in the linked article, he talks about a guy, Franchi, who received support from Communists and presumably the UK while resisting Mussolini but was a monarchist who fell into right wing activities after the war and was charged for plotting a pro monarchy court d’etat.

        Much like how I don’t condemn small African anti colonial governments for taking Russian assistance. I don’t immediately view a struggling Small Pro Capitalist state taking USA assistance as inherently condemn able.

        I don’t know Milei’s full views, but I struggle to have “guy who’s rounding up all the racial undesirables and occupying cities with troops” on the same level as “guy who thinks letting companies pay in milk is good”. Both are dangerous and bad ideas, but one is much MUCH worse in my opinion.

        If I’m missing something, I’m genuinely down to learn more. These are just my concerns with my limited understanding.

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      Not really, this is just textbook shock therapy. WSWS has a tendency to sensationalize everything while presenting very little evidence. I got fed up with them when they were reporting on the Prague shooting from a few years ago and they were making some very unhinged claims. It’s clear that they prioritize revolutionary outrage over facts.