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Raspberry Pi 500+ boasts a high-quality mechanical keyboard with removable keycaps and individually addressable RGB LEDs, an internal M.2 socket pre-fitted with a 256GB Raspberry Pi SSD, and 16GB of RAM.
Ultimate?? And this certainly shows what they were up to when they left the M2 slot out of the original Pi 500. I’m sure it helps.
I have a 400 and it’s a cool machine but its web browser is unusably slow. This new thing will be better but is will still be slow compared to a basic x86 board.
Interesting about the mechanical keyboard and I wonder if maintenance is possible. With the 400, there is no way to replace the keyboard when it wears out.
The lack of a pointing device is a big error imho. You end up needing a mouse or other thing needing a surface to put it on. Not so good for using on your lap.
Even with my 400, I generally used an external USB trackpad keyboard. So I think this 500+ ($200) has to be compared with a Pi 5 ($132 with 16GB and already overpriced) plus a keyboard and M2 drive. A Pi 5 with 2GB is $50 and a 16gb ddr4 sodimm (which won’t fit in a pi) is about $40, so there is a gap somewhere.
Likely the issue was that the board layout as is. Did not allow for the current 400 case to take the M2 slot in a way that users could have easy access.
While you and Def I. May not worry about having to unclip the case. For a company selling mainly as an educational product. (Dispite that no longer being their main market).
The cost and time for case mods of that level. Likely made this option much more logical.
Many guess something like this was the next stage. Keyboard is a real nice suprise though.
The 500 case (no idea about 400) could accomodate the M2 drive and some people installed their own.
It’s also weird that the 500+ comes with a 256GB drive with no 512GB offered (maybe they will offer that later).
Still, for $200 you can get a decent X86 laptop, so this $200 rpi is niche.
400 and 500 case are identical E. It is not the space. But the fact that opening the case is not considered a user task.
The 500plus has bolts to open the case rather then the having to deal with breakable clips. The 400 and 500 case need a little more width and completelly new injection moulding to do that.
As I made clear in my post. What you and I are willing to do. Vs what a corporation is willing to sell as maintainable are different.SSD and storage in general has consumer expected requirement to be replaceable. Hence why every laptop etc has easy covers for upgrade.
Doing that requires a whole new case with now injection moulding machines and factory lines etc.
Oh that is kind of interesting about clips vs bolts. But, they really should have modified the 500 case as needed to add a slot for the SSD. I don’t want to spend 2x more just to get that slot. Oh well, if I go this route I’ll just get a pi 5. It looks like memory upgrade is a huge pain though, and 16gb upgrade is not known to work. People have upgraded to 8gb though.
If you know anyone with a 3£ printer near by. And some time with a craft knife.
Would be pretty darn easy to cut the slot in the case. And print a plastic cover that clips in.
As you said plenty on line to add your own M2 and the power circuits to support it.
Likely will be more soon with the plus to look at.
Personally. I have a 40p and a 500 so will wait a few months and see what happens. But I will likely go for that keyboard eventually.
You have to do a bunch of SMT soldering to add the circuitry, doesn’t seem worth the hassle, especially since I wouldn’t use the 500’s built-in keyboard anyway. I wish it had included a pointing device like every laptop has. Using a separate mouse means you also need a desk to put it on, which is constraining. So I think I’d get a pi 5 and external keyboard if I wanted to stay with Pi stuff. There isn’t that much attraction though.