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Oh wow a shitty website has an article. Proof of absolutely nothing, congrats on that Ivan. Wtf is counterpunch? lol real reputable guy… Let me know when your president can’t change the constitution at will to serve for a lifetime.
More reputable than a random fash on lemmy that’s for sure. Meanwhile, entire books have been written on the subject and it’s documented extensively. The article links to numerous ones. Gold star for trying to make a counterpoint I guess.
Entire books on what? The US being fascist? Ok guy… gtfo, gold star for propaganda. There’s whole books written about how your country is now a dictatorship with a president who fakes elections and all they do is throw dissenters out of windows. Random fash, lol wow, you really got me there weirdo. How is Alexei Navalny doing in that super not a fascist country of yours? Maybe you guys will find someplace new to contaminate with radiation while trying to poison more people who disagree with your totally democratically elected leader. Tell me, are you guys still throwing people in prison to rot for putting antiwar stickers in supermarkets or protesting while holding up blank sheets of paper? How very free of you.
Alexei Navalny
So you also hate Arabs and Muslims?
> Denies being fascist.
> Laments the murder of Alexei Navalny.Interesting strategy.
Thank you for taking your valuable time away from huffing gas to make this insightful comment little fash.
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you’re such an angry little fash, keep raging there kiddo
and making a lot of weapons’ sales in the process, carving Europe like a shawarma
Exactly, the US will cannibalize Europe to keep their own economy afloat.
This is Trump adapting his strategy of declaring bankruptcy to the political arena. He made a big deal about how skilled his is, in truth he’s a moron and can’t deliver, now he’s washing his hands of it to avoid embarrassment.
Seems to me that Trump has skillfully outplayed the Europeans at every turn here, and managed to use the threat of Russia in Ukraine to make Europe completely dependent on the US economically. Europeans have now been cut off from cheap Russian energy and are forced to by increasingly large amounts of American LNG, Trump just forced an incredibly unequal deal on the EU, and the EU will be expected to invest close to a trillion into US economy in the coming years. On top of that, the US is actively poaching whatever industry is left in Europe. Eventually, Trump will make a deal with Russia, but Europe will be cannibalized before that happens.
Didn’t US government sign a new agreement with Lockheed Martin to maintain the F-16 jets loaned to Ukraine?
Fash support fash.
just summed up NATO support for Ukraine
NATO support for Ukraine is summed up by a mix of “Liberal Democracies desperate cling to Rules based International Order despite hypocrisies” and “European countries with long history of being invaded and terrorized by Russia oppose countries being invaded and terrorized by Russia”
Neither NATO nor Ukraine are Fascist so… no
‘Invading Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libra, Vietnam, Syria, etc., engaging in genocide, coups, kidnapping, torture, operations Gladio and the like is totally not fascist!’
- You
meanwhile in the real world
- https://www.historynet.com/these-nato-generals-had-unusual-backgrounds-they-served-in-the-third-reich/
- origins of slava ukraini https://web.archive.org/web/20200926092831/https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2018/10/22/glory-to-ukraine-the-de-glorified-truth-of-ukrainian-nationalist-policy/
- Ukrainian neo-Nazi C14, known for racist and homophobic attacks, gets public funding for ‘patriotic education’ https://khpg.org/en/1528928862
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
- https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2021-05-04/ty-article/.premium/ukrainian-official-changes-tune-on-unacceptable-march-honoring-ss-unit/0000017f-e0e2-d7b2-a77f-e3e7ee990000 (https://archive.ph/ckwv4)
- https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725c2d
- https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/on-the-influence-of-neo-nazism-in-ukraine/
- https://consortiumnews.com/2022/12/29/evidence-of-us-backed-coup-in-kiev/
- https://gordonhahn.com/2015/05/02/ukraines-neo-fascist-right-sector-claims-responsibility-again-for-2-may-2014-terrorist-pogrom/
- http://www.errc.org/news/anti-roma-pogroms-in-ukraine-on-c14-and-tolerating-terror
I’m not interested in getting into a debate about whether Ukraine is fascist state (my official stance is “it’s complicated”), but you should probably divide it cleanly into the period under a US-appointed neo-Nazi president and under a politically impotent Jewish president.
There isn’t really a clean division, because while it’s true that Zelensky ran on a platform of making peace in Donbas he was also bankrolled by Kolomoisky, who’s the same guy that’s tight with Azov https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-ukrainian-oligarch-ihor-kolomoisky-under-investigation-by-fbi
In general, banderites and other far right groups continue to have a huge amount of political power there. Lots of top officials, like Zaluzhny, are very open about it too.
It’s still an important distinction. A state run completely by Banderites vs a state where Banderites have considerable influence. In the former case the instigator is the entire state apparatus, in the latter case it’s dark forces within the state that need to be fought against.
Anything from before the election of Zelensky can easily be brushed aside, and rightly so, as a criticism of the past state of Ukraine.
The current state of Ukraine isn’t fundamentally different. If anything, under Zelensky, opposition parties and independent media have been banned, and elections have been cancelled. Ukraine today is basically a dictatorship that’s aligned with the fascist forces.
Its really not complicated
My dude came with cherry picked receipts! I’ll tell you why you’re wrong later
whatever you say fash 🤡
I’m not a fascist
yeah, just like NATO and Ukraine
Ukraine has fascist elements, as does NATO. I don’t think as a whole either are fascist but the US is overwhelmingly central to NATO and the US is 100% fascist (regardless of which party is in power).
I agree that the United States is on its way to being fascist yes.
