• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    12 hours ago

    Did no one actually read the article past the vaguely misleading headline?

    “I agree with the concerns expressed by parents and players that we have to take into account biological factors such as muscle mass and unfair student athletic advantage when we determine who plays on which teams, especially in contact sports,” Harris reportedly wrote. “With goodwill and common sense, I believe we can come up with ways to do this, without vilifying and demonizing children.”

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      7 hours ago

      My problem with the article is how much air Americans give to the topic of trans athletes in sports when Americans have more pressing problems. Healthcare, affordability of life, violence are real issues affecting Americans much more than sports games. I don’t think giving air to this conversation is helping Americans.

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        52 minutes ago

        That’s the entire point of all these “culture war” issues. They’re used as distractions for more pressing matters, that the ruling class really doesn’t want to address, because they know conservatives will be outraged by them, and progressives won’t be able to just let people be victimized, for no reason. If the public tires itself out, fighting over topics like these, there’s a better chance we won’t have the energy to demand real action on more expensive things.

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      8 hours ago

      “with goodwill and common sense, I believe we can…”

      When the folks across the aisle you’re champing at the bit to reach demonstrate goodwill and common sense, maybe you might have a ghost of a chance. Until such time, you’re validating the position that trans women have no place in established sports.

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        57 minutes ago

        So…until then, goodwill and common sense shouldn’t apply to your approach? What policy should you adopt, until the other side decides to get their shit together?

        Should we advocate for exactly the kind of hyperbolic position that Republicans use as a strawman, to argue against inclusion?

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      11 hours ago

      Oh, so they are going to mandate weight and height across the board for all sports and stop separating sport by gender?

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        10 hours ago

        Prior to Republicans passing laws to outright ban transgender athletes from participating altogether, they actually had standards in place for how long athletes had to be on HRT, before they were allowed to compete. By all physical accounts, this meant that those athletes had comparable muscle mass and bone densities to the gender they identified as.

        What else would you expect? Even between biological girls of the same age, there are significant differences between individual athletes. Once you include training, diet and other normal genetic factors…the differences between a trans athlete on HRT and a cis athlete is actually well within those standard margins. Any advantage they might have, comes from skill and training alone.

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          10 hours ago

          It was more of a joke in how ridiculous it would be to implement such a system… the logistics would be crazy for team sports…

          But like you said, it would be easier to just let them play…

          If you want to be crazy you can add a new format for anyone, but men… and make the men’s category just open so that anyone can join…